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this is a play called sell by date it's

this is a play called sell by date it's

this is a play called sell by date it's my first since bridg and tunnel which I

my first since bridg and tunnel which I

my first since bridg and tunnel which I did on Broadway and this

did on Broadway and this

did on Broadway and this one I I've thank you I've uh excerpted

one I I've thank you I've uh excerpted

one I I've thank you I've uh excerpted it just for you so here we

go right uh class let's be absolutely

go right uh class let's be absolutely

go right uh class let's be absolutely certain all electronic devices are

certain all electronic devices are

certain all electronic devices are switched off before we

switched off before we

switched off before we begin so class hopefully uh you'll

begin so class hopefully uh you'll

begin so class hopefully uh you'll recognize what you just heard me say as

recognize what you just heard me say as

recognize what you just heard me say as the very good the cellular phone

the very good the cellular phone

the very good the cellular phone announcement right this was also known

announcement right this was also known

announcement right this was also known as a mobile phone so you'll remember

as a mobile phone so you'll remember

as a mobile phone so you'll remember people of that era would have had an

people of that era would have had an

people of that era would have had an external electronic device right

external electronic device right

external electronic device right something like this and they all would

something like this and they all would

something like this and they all would have carried one of these round with

have carried one of these round with

have carried one of these round with them and amongst their biggest fears was

them and amongst their biggest fears was

them and amongst their biggest fears was the sheer mortification that one of

the sheer mortification that one of

the sheer mortification that one of these might ring at some inopportune

these might ring at some inopportune

these might ring at some inopportune moment right so bit of trivia about that

moment right so bit of trivia about that

moment right so bit of trivia about that era for you but um so the format of

era for you but um so the format of

era for you but um so the format of today's class is I will be presenting

today's class is I will be presenting

today's class is I will be presenting multiple Bert modules today uh from that

multiple Bert modules today uh from that

multiple Bert modules today uh from that period in history right so starting

period in history right so starting

period in history right so starting Circa 2016 and remember this was the

Circa 2016 and remember this was the

Circa 2016 and remember this was the very first year of the Bert program uh

very first year of the Bert program uh

very first year of the Bert program uh so we've got quite a few of these to get

so we've got quite a few of these to get

so we've got quite a few of these to get through bear in mind I will be living

through bear in mind I will be living

through bear in mind I will be living into various different bodies different

into various different bodies different

into various different bodies different ages um also what were then called races

ages um also what were then called races

ages um also what were then called races or ethnic groups as you'll remember from

or ethnic groups as you'll remember from

or ethnic groups as you'll remember from unit one

unit one

unit one and and along the gender Continuum I

and and along the gender Continuum I

and and along the gender Continuum I will be living into males as well it was

will be living into males as well it was

will be living into males as well it was quite binary at that time um oh also

quite binary at that time um oh also

quite binary at that time um oh also don't forget we are reading the book

don't forget we are reading the book

don't forget we are reading the book module for next week's focus on gender

module for next week's focus on gender

module for next week's focus on gender now I know some of you have requested

now I know some of you have requested

now I know some of you have requested the book in pill form I I know people

the book in pill form I I know people

the book in pill form I I know people still believe ingesting it is better for

still believe ingesting it is better for

still believe ingesting it is better for retention but since we are trying to

retention but since we are trying to

retention but since we are trying to experience what our forebears did right

experience what our forebears did right

experience what our forebears did right let's let's please just consider doing

let's let's please just consider doing

let's let's please just consider doing the actual ocular reading okay and uh

the actual ocular reading okay and uh

the actual ocular reading okay and uh also uh how many people have your

also uh how many people have your

also uh how many people have your emotional shunts engaged right please

emotional shunts engaged right please

emotional shunts engaged right please toggle them off okay I'm I'm I really I

toggle them off okay I'm I'm I really I

toggle them off okay I'm I'm I really I know it's challenging but I want you to

know it's challenging but I want you to

know it's challenging but I want you to be able to feel the entire natural emo

be able to feel the entire natural emo

be able to feel the entire natural emo range all right it is essential to this

range all right it is essential to this

range all right it is essential to this part of the syllabus um yes

part of the syllabus um yes

part of the syllabus um yes Macy all right I understand but if

Macy all right I understand but if

Macy all right I understand but if you're unwilling to all right well we

you're unwilling to all right well we

you're unwilling to all right well we can discuss that after class okay all

can discuss that after class okay all

can discuss that after class okay all right we'll discuss your concerns but

right we'll discuss your concerns but

right we'll discuss your concerns but just relax okay nobody's died and gone

just relax okay nobody's died and gone

just relax okay nobody's died and gone to

to

to composting okay let's after class okay

composting okay let's after class okay

composting okay let's after class okay after class all right let's let's just

after class all right let's let's just

after class all right let's let's just get started okay uh this first subject

get started okay uh this first subject

get started okay uh this first subject identified as a middle class home maker

identified as a middle class home maker

identified as a middle class home maker uh remember these early modules uh in

uh remember these early modules uh in

uh remember these early modules uh in these people's full identities were

these people's full identities were

these people's full identities were protected and this allowed them to speak

protected and this allowed them to speak

protected and this allowed them to speak more freely on our topic which for many

more freely on our topic which for many

more freely on our topic which for many of them was taboo

right okay honey now I'm ready when you

right okay honey now I'm ready when you

right okay honey now I'm ready when you are no sweetheart I said I'm ready when

are no sweetheart I said I'm ready when

are no sweetheart I said I'm ready when you are okay I'm

you are okay I'm

you are okay I'm freezing it's like a meat locker in here

freezing it's like a meat locker in here

freezing it's like a meat locker in here in this recording studio I should have

in this recording studio I should have

in this recording studio I should have brought a

brought a

brought a schm all this fancy technology but they

schm all this fancy technology but they

schm all this fancy technology but they can't afford

can't afford

can't afford heat what is he saying I can't hear you

heat what is he saying I can't hear you

heat what is he saying I can't hear you I can't hear you through the glass honey

I can't hear you through the glass honey

I can't hear you through the glass honey oh there you are in my

oh there you are in my

oh there you are in my ear okay oh you can hear me the whole

ear okay oh you can hear me the whole

ear okay oh you can hear me the whole time oh yes I am a little

time oh yes I am a little

time oh yes I am a little chilly okay yes oh the cold is for the

chilly okay yes oh the cold is for the

chilly okay yes oh the cold is for the machines right the new technology okay

machines right the new technology okay

machines right the new technology okay yes now remind me again you're recording

yes now remind me again you're recording

yes now remind me again you're recording not only my voice but my

not only my voice but my

not only my voice but my feelings my and my memories right okay

feelings my and my memories right okay

feelings my and my memories right okay right yeah Bert yes I read about it bio

right yeah Bert yes I read about it bio

right yeah Bert yes I read about it bio empathetic resonant technology right

empathetic resonant technology right

empathetic resonant technology right right but so people will be able to feel

right but so people will be able to feel

right but so people will be able to feel my experience and my memory okay no

my experience and my memory okay no

my experience and my memory okay no right I'm ready I just I thought you

right I'm ready I just I thought you

right I'm ready I just I thought you were going to give me a test to see how

were going to give me a test to see how

were going to give me a test to see how my memory is doing I was going to tell

my memory is doing I was going to tell

my memory is doing I was going to tell you you're too late it's already bad

you you're too late it's already bad

you you're too late it's already bad news okay no no go ahead

news okay no no go ahead

news okay no no go ahead honey oh that's the first

honey oh that's the first

honey oh that's the first question what do I think of

question what do I think of

question what do I think of prostitution are you soliciting me young

man I've heard of May December romances

man I've heard of May December romances

man I've heard of May December romances but what are you about 20 years

but what are you about 20 years

but what are you about 20 years old 18 18 years I think I

old 18 18 years I think I

old 18 18 years I think I have think I have candies in my purse

have think I have candies in my purse

have think I have candies in my purse older than 18 years

old I'm teasing you sweetheart okay now

old I'm teasing you sweetheart okay now

old I'm teasing you sweetheart okay now I'm comfortable with any question okay

I'm comfortable with any question okay

I'm comfortable with any question okay sure so about the

sure so about the

sure so about the prostitu oh sex worker sex work okay no

prostitu oh sex worker sex work okay no

prostitu oh sex worker sex work okay no uh just in my day they called it

uh just in my day they called it

uh just in my day they called it prostitution not sex oh because it

prostitution not sex oh because it

prostitution not sex oh because it includes pornography also okay yeah no

includes pornography also okay yeah no

includes pornography also okay yeah no well uh I guess when I was a girl we

well uh I guess when I was a girl we

well uh I guess when I was a girl we didn't really have a name for that

didn't really have a name for that

didn't really have a name for that either we would have said said um dirty

either we would have said said um dirty

either we would have said said um dirty magazines I suppose or dirty

magazines I suppose or dirty

magazines I suppose or dirty movies well it's not like what you have

movies well it's not like what you have

movies well it's not like what you have with the

with the

with the internet well no okay I don't mind

internet well no okay I don't mind

internet well no okay I don't mind sharing you know my late husband and I

sharing you know my late husband and I

sharing you know my late husband and I we were a very uh romantic couple um

we were a very uh romantic couple um

we were a very uh romantic couple um lots of tenderness you understand and uh

lots of tenderness you understand and uh

lots of tenderness you understand and uh well as you get older you know at one

well as you get older you know at one

well as you get older you know at one point I thought my husband might be

point I thought my husband might be

point I thought my husband might be helped by using some of the uh you know

helped by using some of the uh you know

helped by using some of the uh you know the pills men can take

the pills men can take

the pills men can take uh but you know he wasn't interested in

uh but you know he wasn't interested in

uh but you know he wasn't interested in those and so I thought well what about

those and so I thought well what about

those and so I thought well what about maybe watching an adult movie on the

maybe watching an adult movie on the

maybe watching an adult movie on the internet just just for inspiration you

internet just just for inspiration you

internet just just for inspiration you understand yeah well at the time neither

understand yeah well at the time neither

understand yeah well at the time neither of us were very good on the

of us were very good on the

of us were very good on the computer uh so you know usually if we

computer uh so you know usually if we

computer uh so you know usually if we needed help with the internet we would

needed help with the internet we would

needed help with the internet we would just call our children or our

just call our children or our

just call our children or our grandchildren uh but obviously in this

grandchildren uh but obviously in this

grandchildren uh but obviously in this case that wasn't an option uh so I

case that wasn't an option uh so I

case that wasn't an option uh so I thought I'll have a look myself you know

thought I'll have a look myself you know

thought I'll have a look myself you know just to see uh you know how difficult

just to see uh you know how difficult

just to see uh you know how difficult could it be uh you search for certain

could it be uh you search for certain

could it be uh you search for certain keywords and you look oh wow is Right

keywords and you look oh wow is Right

keywords and you look oh wow is Right young man you can't imagine what I

young man you can't imagine what I

young man you can't imagine what I saw well first of all I was just trying

saw well first of all I was just trying

saw well first of all I was just trying to find you know uh couples normal

to find you know uh couples normal

to find you know uh couples normal couples making glove you know but this

couples making glove you know but this

couples making glove you know but this would so many people together at one

would so many people together at one

would so many people together at one time you couldn't tell which part

time you couldn't tell which part

time you couldn't tell which part belonged to which body you know and how

belonged to which body you know and how

belonged to which body you know and how they even got the cameras to capture

they even got the cameras to capture

they even got the cameras to capture some of this I couldn't tell you but but

some of this I couldn't tell you but but

some of this I couldn't tell you but but the one thing they didn't capture was

the one thing they didn't capture was

the one thing they didn't capture was making love you know I mean there was

making love you know I mean there was

making love you know I mean there was lots of

lots of

lots of making of something you know but they

making of something you know but they

making of something you know but they took the love part right out of it you

took the love part right out of it you

took the love part right out of it you know the fun it was um all very extreme

know the fun it was um all very extreme

know the fun it was um all very extreme you know like you would say with the

you know like you would say with the

you know like you would say with the extreme sports you know uh lots of

extreme sports you know uh lots of

extreme sports you know uh lots of endurance uh but never tenderness you

endurance uh but never tenderness you

endurance uh but never tenderness you know so anyway needless to say that was

know so anyway needless to say that was

know so anyway needless to say that was $19.95 I'll never get back again but um

$19.95 I'll never get back again but um

$19.95 I'll never get back again but um it only showed up on the credit card as

it only showed up on the credit card as

it only showed up on the credit card as entertainment services so my husband was

entertainment services so my husband was

entertainment services so my husband was never the wiser and you know after all

never the wiser and you know after all

never the wiser and you know after all of that he

of that he

of that he um well you could say it turned out he

um well you could say it turned out he

um well you could say it turned out he didn't need the extra inspiration after

didn't need the extra inspiration after

didn't need the extra inspiration after all right so next subject is a young

all right so next subject is a young

all right so next subject is a young woman next subject class is a NE a young

woman next subject class is a NE a young

woman next subject class is a NE a young woman called Bella a university student

woman called Bella a university student

woman called Bella a university student interviewed in 2016 during what was

interviewed in 2016 during what was

interviewed in 2016 during what was called an intro to feminist porn class

called an intro to feminist porn class

called an intro to feminist porn class as part of her major in sex work at a

as part of her major in sex work at a

as part of her major in sex work at a college in the Bay

Area yeah I just want to like get a

Area yeah I just want to like get a

Area yeah I just want to like get a recording of like you guys like

recording of like you guys like

recording of like you guys like recording me like a meta recording or

recording me like a meta recording or

recording me like a meta recording or whatever um this is just like this whole

whatever um this is just like this whole

whatever um this is just like this whole experience it's just like really amazing

experience it's just like really amazing

experience it's just like really amazing and I'd like to capture that for like

and I'd like to capture that for like

and I'd like to capture that for like Instagram and my Tumblr okay so like hi

Instagram and my Tumblr okay so like hi

Instagram and my Tumblr okay so like hi guys it's me Bella and I am like being

guys it's me Bella and I am like being

guys it's me Bella and I am like being interviewed right now um for this like

interviewed right now um for this like

interviewed right now um for this like really amazing bio empathetic resonance

really amazing bio empathetic resonance

really amazing bio empathetic resonance technology which is like basically where

technology which is like basically where

technology which is like basically where they are like recording

they are like recording

they are like recording like as you can see from these whatever

like as you can see from these whatever

like as you can see from these whatever like electrodes the formation of like

like electrodes the formation of like

like electrodes the formation of like neuropeptides in my hippocampus or

neuropeptides in my hippocampus or

neuropeptides in my hippocampus or whatever and they will later be able to

whatever and they will later be able to

whatever and they will later be able to reconstitute these as like my own actual

reconstitute these as like my own actual

reconstitute these as like my own actual memory like actual experiences so other

memory like actual experiences so other

memory like actual experiences so other people can like actually feel what I'm

people can like actually feel what I'm

people can like actually feel what I'm feeling right

feeling right

feeling right now okay okay so like hello B person of

now okay okay so like hello B person of

now okay okay so like hello B person of the future who was experiencing

the future who was experiencing

the future who was experiencing me this is what it feels like to be like

me this is what it feels like to be like

me this is what it feels like to be like college freshman and also the like

college freshman and also the like

college freshman and also the like headache that you are experiencing

headache that you are experiencing

headache that you are experiencing through me is the like residual effect

through me is the like residual effect

through me is the like residual effect of the jello shots which I had last

of the jello shots which I had last

of the jello shots which I had last night at the bi-weekly feminist pole

night at the bi-weekly feminist pole

night at the bi-weekly feminist pole dancing party which I co-host on

dancing party which I co-host on

dancing party which I co-host on Wednesdays it's called don't get all

Wednesdays it's called don't get all

Wednesdays it's called don't get all pole

pole

pole emical and it's in beakman

emical and it's in beakman

emical and it's in beakman Hall and what else like non jello shots

Hall and what else like non jello shots

Hall and what else like non jello shots are also available for

are also available for

are also available for vegans

vegans

vegans and oh okay yeah totally yeah we should

and oh okay yeah totally yeah we should

and oh okay yeah totally yeah we should also focus on your questions

also focus on your questions

also focus on your questions also yeah so for your record I am like a

also yeah so for your record I am like a

also yeah so for your record I am like a sex work Studies major but minoring in

sex work Studies major but minoring in

sex work Studies major but minoring in social media with a concentration on

social media with a concentration on

social media with a concentration on notable YouTube

memes

memes

memes yes well of course like I consider

yes well of course like I consider

yes well of course like I consider myself to be like obviously like a

myself to be like obviously like a

myself to be like obviously like a feminist like I was named for Bella

feminist like I was named for Bella

feminist like I was named for Bella abzug who's like a famous like feminist

abzug who's like a famous like feminist

abzug who's like a famous like feminist from

from

from history and like also I feel that it is

history and like also I feel that it is

history and like also I feel that it is like important to like represent women

like important to like represent women

like important to like represent women who are like sex positive

who are like sex positive

who are like sex positive feminist what is sex

feminist what is sex

feminist what is sex negative well like I guess I would ask

negative well like I guess I would ask

negative well like I guess I would ask like what do you think sex negative

like what do you think sex negative

like what do you think sex negative is yeah cuz like the terms that we use

is yeah cuz like the terms that we use

is yeah cuz like the terms that we use are like so important because like we

are like so important because like we

are like so important because like we call it sex work because like it helps

call it sex work because like it helps

call it sex work because like it helps people understand that like it's work

people understand that like it's work

people understand that like it's work and like you know just like there are

and like you know just like there are

and like you know just like there are like Health Care Providers and like

like Health Care Providers and like

like Health Care Providers and like insurance providers like we think of

insurance providers like we think of

insurance providers like we think of these workers as like sex care providers

these workers as like sex care providers

these workers as like sex care providers yeah like I don't think of myself like

yeah like I don't think of myself like

yeah like I don't think of myself like providing direct sex care services per

providing direct sex care services per

providing direct sex care services per se as like being a requirement for me to

se as like being a requirement for me to

se as like being a requirement for me to like be an advocate like I support other

like be an advocate like I support other

like be an advocate like I support other women's right to choose it voluntarily

women's right to choose it voluntarily

women's right to choose it voluntarily like if they enjoy

like if they enjoy

like if they enjoy it yeah but like I see myself going

it yeah but like I see myself going

it yeah but like I see myself going forward as more likely like protecting

forward as more likely like protecting

forward as more likely like protecting sex workers like legal freedoms and

sex workers like legal freedoms and

sex workers like legal freedoms and rights yeah so like basically I'm

rights yeah so like basically I'm

rights yeah so like basically I'm planning on becoming a lawyer

planning on becoming a lawyer

planning on becoming a lawyer play right class so these next two

play right class so these next two

play right class so these next two modules are also Circa

modules are also Circa

modules are also Circa 2016 uh one subject is an Irish woman

2016 uh one subject is an Irish woman

2016 uh one subject is an Irish woman with a particularly noteworthy

with a particularly noteworthy

with a particularly noteworthy relationship to this issue uh but first

relationship to this issue uh but first

relationship to this issue uh but first will be a West Indian woman a

will be a West Indian woman a

will be a West Indian woman a self-described escort who was recorded

self-described escort who was recorded

self-described escort who was recorded at a sex workers rights rally and parade

at a sex workers rights rally and parade

at a sex workers rights rally and parade uh she was interviewed whilst marching

uh she was interviewed whilst marching

uh she was interviewed whilst marching in full whole Carnival headdress and

in full whole Carnival headdress and

in full whole Carnival headdress and very little

else all right you want me to start

else all right you want me to start

else all right you want me to start talking now yeah I told you you know you

talking now yeah I told you you know you

talking now yeah I told you you know you can put those wires anywhere you want to

can put those wires anywhere you want to

can put those wires anywhere you want to as long as it don't get in the

as long as it don't get in the

as long as it don't get in the way yeah no but tell me again what was

way yeah no but tell me again what was

way yeah no but tell me again what was the name of Bert Bert yeah I was telling

the name of Bert Bert yeah I was telling

the name of Bert Bert yeah I was telling you you know I think I have in all my

you you know I think I have in all my

you you know I think I have in all my time I have had at least one client with

time I have had at least one client with

time I have had at least one client with that name so this won't be the first

that name so this won't be the first

that name so this won't be the first time I had ber all over me

I'm sorry but you got to get into the

I'm sorry but you got to get into the

I'm sorry but you got to get into the spirit of it if you're going to

spirit of it if you're going to

spirit of it if you're going to interview me all right you can say it no

interview me all right you can say it no

interview me all right you can say it no justice no peace no justice no peace but

justice no peace no justice no peace but

justice no peace no justice no peace but you see the sign you get it p i e c e no

you see the sign you get it p i e c e no

you see the sign you get it p i e c e no justice no piece of ass you

justice no piece of ass you

justice no piece of ass you understand all right so that's the part

understand all right so that's the part

understand all right so that's the part what I was telling you is that uh you

what I was telling you is that uh you

what I was telling you is that uh you know when I first came to this country I

know when I first came to this country I

know when I first came to this country I work every job I can find I was a nanny

work every job I can find I was a nanny

work every job I can find I was a nanny I was a home care attendant for all of

I was a home care attendant for all of

I was a home care attendant for all of these different old people and then I

these different old people and then I

these different old people and then I said child if I have to touch another

said child if I have to touch another

said child if I have to touch another white man backside I might as well get

white man backside I might as well get

white man backside I might as well get paid a lot more money for it than this

paid a lot more money for it than this

paid a lot more money for it than this you

you

you understand you know how hard it is being

understand you know how hard it is being

understand you know how hard it is being a domestic worker some of these men they

a domestic worker some of these men they

a domestic worker some of these men they heavy you have to pick them up and flip

heavy you have to pick them up and flip

heavy you have to pick them up and flip them over now I let them pick me up and

them over now I let them pick me up and

them over now I let them pick me up and flip me over you understand well you

flip me over you understand well you

flip me over you understand well you have to have a sense of humor about it

have to have a sense of humor about it

have to have a sense of humor about it that's what I think no but see listen

that's what I think no but see listen

that's what I think no but see listen you find me somebody who don't hate some

you find me somebody who don't hate some

you find me somebody who don't hate some part of their job I mean there's a lot

part of their job I mean there's a lot

part of their job I mean there's a lot of things about this job that I hate but

of things about this job that I hate but

of things about this job that I hate but the money is not one of them and I will

the money is not one of them and I will

the money is not one of them and I will tell you as long as this the best

tell you as long as this the best

tell you as long as this the best possibility for me to make real money

possibility for me to make real money

possibility for me to make real money I'm going to be Jamaican no faking if

I'm going to be Jamaican no faking if

I'm going to be Jamaican no faking if that's what they want to call me no I'm

that's what they want to call me no I'm

that's what they want to call me no I'm not even from Jamaica that's how they

not even from Jamaica that's how they

not even from Jamaica that's how they Market me my family is from Trinidad and

Market me my family is from Trinidad and

Market me my family is from Trinidad and the Virgin

the Virgin

the Virgin Islands they don't know what I do but

Islands they don't know what I do but

Islands they don't know what I do but you know what my children they know that

you know what my children they know that

you know what my children they know that their school fees are paid they have

their school fees are paid they have

their school fees are paid they have their books and their computer and this

their books and their computer and this

their books and their computer and this way I know that they have a chance so

way I know that they have a chance so

way I know that they have a chance so I'm not going to tell you that what I do

I'm not going to tell you that what I do

I'm not going to tell you that what I do it's easy I'm not going to tell you that

it's easy I'm not going to tell you that

it's easy I'm not going to tell you that I feel what's that you said

I feel what's that you said

I feel what's that you said liberated but I'mma tell you that I feel

paid

paid

paid right

right

right um thanks that's lovely just the copper

um thanks that's lovely just the copper

um thanks that's lovely just the copper love and just a splash of the whiskey

love and just a splash of the whiskey

love and just a splash of the whiskey it's perfect that's Grand just a drop

it's perfect that's Grand just a drop

it's perfect that's Grand just a drop more it's a splash perfect what was your

more it's a splash perfect what was your

more it's a splash perfect what was your name Peter that right so Peter right so

name Peter that right so Peter right so

name Peter that right so Peter right so that that is the unique part of it for

that that is the unique part of it for

that that is the unique part of it for me right is that um I ended up in

me right is that um I ended up in

me right is that um I ended up in both uh first in the convent and then in

both uh first in the convent and then in

both uh first in the convent and then in the prostitution after that's right

the prostitution after that's right

the prostitution after that's right right so uh one woman at the University

right so uh one woman at the University

right so uh one woman at the University here in Dublin she wrote about me she

here in Dublin she wrote about me she

here in Dublin she wrote about me she said um Moren Fitzroy is the living

said um Moren Fitzroy is the living

said um Moren Fitzroy is the living embodiment of the [ __ ] virgin

embodiment of the [ __ ] virgin

embodiment of the [ __ ] virgin dichotomy right well doesn't it sound

dichotomy right well doesn't it sound

dichotomy right well doesn't it sound like something you need to go into a

like something you need to go into a

like something you need to go into a hospital well I've got this terrible

hospital well I've got this terrible

hospital well I've got this terrible dichotomy wasn't it right well for me

dichotomy wasn't it right well for me

dichotomy wasn't it right well for me though you know it was as a girl you

though you know it was as a girl you

though you know it was as a girl you know just starting with me Dad I mean

know just starting with me Dad I mean

know just starting with me Dad I mean half the time when he spoke to us it was

half the time when he spoke to us it was

half the time when he spoke to us it was just a sort of tell us we were all

just a sort of tell us we were all

just a sort of tell us we were all useless rotten egyps and we had no

useless rotten egyps and we had no

useless rotten egyps and we had no morals and that type of thing and um you

morals and that type of thing and um you

morals and that type of thing and um you know I certainly didn't do myself any

know I certainly didn't do myself any

know I certainly didn't do myself any favors by the time I was

favors by the time I was

favors by the time I was 16 I started uh messing about with this

16 I started uh messing about with this

16 I started uh messing about with this older fell and um he wanted to be our

older fell and um he wanted to be our

older fell and um he wanted to be our little secret and I did as I was told

little secret and I did as I was told

little secret and I did as I was told didn't I and um when that got back to me

didn't I and um when that got back to me

didn't I and um when that got back to me dad he uh he had me sent straight away

dad he uh he had me sent straight away

dad he uh he had me sent straight away to the convent and um well no that older

to the convent and um well no that older

to the convent and um well no that older fell he would still come to find me in

fell he would still come to find me in

fell he would still come to find me in the convent yeah he'd leave me notes

the convent yeah he'd leave me notes

the convent yeah he'd leave me notes tucked into the holes in the brick at

tucked into the holes in the brick at

tucked into the holes in the brick at the back of the charity shop so we could

the back of the charity shop so we could

the back of the charity shop so we could meet and um he'd tell me how he's

meet and um he'd tell me how he's

meet and um he'd tell me how he's leaving his wife and um I believed him

leaving his wife and um I believed him

leaving his wife and um I believed him you know until I got pregnant I did

you know until I got pregnant I did

you know until I got pregnant I did Peter and um I left him a note about it

Peter and um I left him a note about it

Peter and um I left him a note about it in our special place there and I never

in our special place there and I never

in our special place there and I never did hear from him again now uh I gave it

did hear from him again now uh I gave it

did hear from him again now uh I gave it up for adoption so I could have a decent

up for adoption so I could have a decent

up for adoption so I could have a decent life and um then they wouldn't let me

life and um then they wouldn't let me

life and um then they wouldn't let me back into the convent so no my one

back into the convent so no my one

back into the convent so no my one sister Virginia gave me a Fiverr for the

sister Virginia gave me a Fiverr for the

sister Virginia gave me a Fiverr for the coach to Dublin and that's how I ended

coach to Dublin and that's how I ended

coach to Dublin and that's how I ended up

up

up here well surprise surprise I fell in

here well surprise surprise I fell in

here well surprise surprise I fell in love with another fell much older than

love with another fell much older than

love with another fell much older than me and um I always say I was just so

me and um I always say I was just so

me and um I always say I was just so happy he didn't because he didn't drink

happy he didn't because he didn't drink

happy he didn't because he didn't drink you know I I I I married the

you know I I I I married the

you know I I I I married the bastard well he didn't drink but he did

bastard well he didn't drink but he did

bastard well he didn't drink but he did have just the we heroin problem didn't

have just the we heroin problem didn't

have just the we heroin problem didn't he and um that's right and before I knew

he and um that's right and before I knew

he and um that's right and before I knew it he was the one that turned me onto

it he was the one that turned me onto

it he was the one that turned me onto the prostitution my own husband yeah he

the prostitution my own husband yeah he

the prostitution my own husband yeah he had me support into both of us I was

had me support into both of us I was

had me support into both of us I was 18 well it wasn't pretty woman I can

18 well it wasn't pretty woman I can

18 well it wasn't pretty woman I can tell you

tell you

tell you that you know that Julia

that you know that Julia

that you know that Julia Roberts if she'd ever had to uh sleep

Roberts if she'd ever had to uh sleep

Roberts if she'd ever had to uh sleep with a man to put a few pounds in her

with a man to put a few pounds in her

with a man to put a few pounds in her pocket I don't think she'd ever have

pocket I don't think she'd ever have

pocket I don't think she'd ever have made that

made that

made that film well for your record um my opinion

film well for your record um my opinion

film well for your record um my opinion of the legalization I'd say I'm against

of the legalization I'd say I'm against

of the legalization I'd say I'm against it I just I don't care what these young

it I just I don't care what these young

it I just I don't care what these young girls say you know living like that

girls say you know living like that

girls say you know living like that you're just lost and um you know I'm 63

you're just lost and um you know I'm 63

you're just lost and um you know I'm 63 years old I'm I'm still trying to find

years old I'm I'm still trying to find

years old I'm I'm still trying to find who I am you know I never was a a wife

who I am you know I never was a a wife

who I am you know I never was a a wife or a nun or a prostitute even really not

or a nun or a prostitute even really not

or a nun or a prostitute even really not really you know because no nobody ever

really you know because no nobody ever

really you know because no nobody ever asked who I wanted to to be they just

asked who I wanted to to be they just

asked who I wanted to to be they just told me and if you legalize it then

told me and if you legalize it then

told me and if you legalize it then you're really telling these girls go on

you're really telling these girls go on

you're really telling these girls go on and get lost for a living and a lot of

and get lost for a living and a lot of

and get lost for a living and a lot of them they'll do as they're

them they'll do as they're

them they'll do as they're told right so four perspectives from

told right so four perspectives from

told right so four perspectives from four

four

four quite four quite different voices there

quite four quite different voices there

quite four quite different voices there right one woman saying sex itself is

right one woman saying sex itself is

right one woman saying sex itself is natural But the Sex industry seems to

natural But the Sex industry seems to

natural But the Sex industry seems to sort of mechanize or industrialize it

sort of mechanize or industrialize it

sort of mechanize or industrialize it right then the second woman considered

right then the second woman considered

right then the second woman considered sex work to be empowering uh liberating

sex work to be empowering uh liberating

sex work to be empowering uh liberating and feminist though she herself notably

and feminist though she herself notably

and feminist though she herself notably did not seem Keen to do it uh the third

did not seem Keen to do it uh the third

did not seem Keen to do it uh the third woman who actually was a so-called sex

woman who actually was a so-called sex

woman who actually was a so-called sex worker uh did not agree that it was

worker uh did not agree that it was

worker uh did not agree that it was liberating but she wanted the right to

liberating but she wanted the right to

liberating but she wanted the right to the economic empowerment and then we

the economic empowerment and then we

the economic empowerment and then we hear the fourth woman saying not only

hear the fourth woman saying not only

hear the fourth woman saying not only prostitution itself but prescribed roles

prostitution itself but prescribed roles

prostitution itself but prescribed roles for women in general prevented her from

for women in general prevented her from

for women in general prevented her from ever finding who she was right so

ever finding who she was right so

ever finding who she was right so another fact most people did not know

another fact most people did not know

another fact most people did not know was the average age of an at risk girl

was the average age of an at risk girl

was the average age of an at risk girl being introduced to the sex industry was

being introduced to the sex industry was

being introduced to the sex industry was 12 or 13 also consider that the age when

12 or 13 also consider that the age when

12 or 13 also consider that the age when all girls in that Society first became

all girls in that Society first became

all girls in that Society first became exposed to sexualized images of women

exposed to sexualized images of women

exposed to sexualized images of women was quite a bit earlier right this this

was quite a bit earlier right this this

was quite a bit earlier right this this was a doll called Barbie right I

was a doll called Barbie right I

was a doll called Barbie right I initially thought she was an educational

initially thought she was an educational

initially thought she was an educational tool for anorexia prevention but

tool for anorexia prevention but

tool for anorexia prevention but actually she was considered by many to

actually she was considered by many to

actually she was considered by many to be a wholesome symbol of femininity and

be a wholesome symbol of femininity and

be a wholesome symbol of femininity and often young girls began what was called

often young girls began what was called

often young girls began what was called dieting right remember this this was

dieting right remember this this was

dieting right remember this this was restricting food intake on purpose uh by

restricting food intake on purpose uh by

restricting food intake on purpose uh by the age of six and defining themselves

the age of six and defining themselves

the age of six and defining themselves based on attractiveness by around that

based on attractiveness by around that

based on attractiveness by around that same time right

same time right

same time right yes right Bradley okay excellent point

yes right Bradley okay excellent point

yes right Bradley okay excellent point so there was a lucrative Market in that

so there was a lucrative Market in that

so there was a lucrative Market in that Society in convincing all people they

Society in convincing all people they

Society in convincing all people they had to look a certain way to even have a

had to look a certain way to even have a

had to look a certain way to even have a sex life right but girls especially were

sex life right but girls especially were

sex life right but girls especially were expected to be sexy while avoiding being

expected to be sexy while avoiding being

expected to be sexy while avoiding being perceived as [ __ ] for being sexual

perceived as [ __ ] for being sexual

perceived as [ __ ] for being sexual right so there's that shame piece we've

right so there's that shame piece we've

right so there's that shame piece we've heard about yes Valerie right okay very

heard about yes Valerie right okay very

heard about yes Valerie right okay very good yes of course men were having sex

good yes of course men were having sex

good yes of course men were having sex as well right but you'll remember from

as well right but you'll remember from

as well right but you'll remember from the reading what were male [ __ ] called

the reading what were male [ __ ] called

the reading what were male [ __ ] called very good they were called men right so

very good they were called men right so

very good they were called men right so uh not not

uh not not

uh not not easy so not easy living in a world like

easy so not easy living in a world like

easy so not easy living in a world like that right though it was not all bad

that right though it was not all bad

that right though it was not all bad news either most women in the early

news either most women in the early

news either most women in the early 2000s considered themselves empowered uh

2000s considered themselves empowered uh

2000s considered themselves empowered uh and Men generally felt they were also

and Men generally felt they were also

and Men generally felt they were also evolved in this area and in fact most

evolved in this area and in fact most

evolved in this area and in fact most people would have been aware of issues

people would have been aware of issues

people would have been aware of issues like human trafficking for example but

like human trafficking for example but

like human trafficking for example but they would have seen that as quite

they would have seen that as quite

they would have seen that as quite separate from more recreational adult

separate from more recreational adult

separate from more recreational adult entertainment and so we'll just very

entertainment and so we'll just very

entertainment and so we'll just very briefly class we don't have a lot of

briefly class we don't have a lot of

briefly class we don't have a lot of time we'll just very briefly hear from a

time we'll just very briefly hear from a

time we'll just very briefly hear from a man on our topic at this stage so this

man on our topic at this stage so this

man on our topic at this stage so this next subject was interviewed on the

next subject was interviewed on the

next subject was interviewed on the night of his is bachelor

party dude can you all right guys can

party dude can you all right guys can

party dude can you all right guys can you just like keep it down I'm trying to

you just like keep it down I'm trying to

you just like keep it down I'm trying to talk to Bert right now oh your name's

talk to Bert right now oh your name's

talk to Bert right now oh your name's not Bert no Bert's the name of the all

not Bert no Bert's the name of the all

not Bert no Bert's the name of the all right no no no totally it's totally fine

right no no no totally it's totally fine

right no no no totally it's totally fine I'm I'm I'm mostly sober so I just

I'm I'm I'm mostly sober so I just

I'm I'm I'm mostly sober so I just wanted to like yeah no I just want to be

wanted to like yeah no I just want to be

wanted to like yeah no I just want to be helpful because yeah yeah and I totally

helpful because yeah yeah and I totally

helpful because yeah yeah and I totally believe in like causes like all that

believe in like causes like all that

believe in like causes like all that stuff um and actually I'm wearing Toms

stuff um and actually I'm wearing Toms

stuff um and actually I'm wearing Toms right

right

right now yeah Tom's like like the shoes you

now yeah Tom's like like the shoes you

now yeah Tom's like like the shoes you know like you buy a pair and then like a

know like you buy a pair and then like a

know like you buy a pair and then like a kid in Africa gets like clean water and

kid in Africa gets like clean water and

kid in Africa gets like clean water and yeah totally so but what was the

yeah totally so but what was the

yeah totally so but what was the question again sorry oh yeah I mean of

question again sorry oh yeah I mean of

question again sorry oh yeah I mean of course I believe in women's rights I'm

course I believe in women's rights I'm

course I believe in women's rights I'm marrying a

woman no but I mean like okay just

woman no but I mean like okay just

woman no but I mean like okay just because I'm in a strip club parking lot

because I'm in a strip club parking lot

because I'm in a strip club parking lot doesn't mean that I'm like a sexist or

doesn't mean that I'm like a sexist or

doesn't mean that I'm like a sexist or whatever I mean like my fiance is

whatever I mean like my fiance is

whatever I mean like my fiance is totally amazing she's like a totally

totally amazing she's like a totally

totally amazing she's like a totally strong girl woman smart woman like the

strong girl woman smart woman like the

strong girl woman smart woman like the whole she yeah she knows I'm here she's

whole she yeah she knows I'm here she's

whole she yeah she knows I'm here she's probably at a strip club herself right

probably at a strip club herself right

probably at a strip club herself right now like as a joke same as

now like as a joke same as

now like as a joke same as me uh my best man I told him he could

me uh my best man I told him he could

me uh my best man I told him he could surprise me and he thought this would be

surprise me and he thought this would be

surprise me and he thought this would be hilarious but this is not something we

hilarious but this is not something we

hilarious but this is not something we uh yeah we all went to be school

uh yeah we all went to be school

uh yeah we all went to be school together uh

together uh

together uh Wharton yeah so dud can you guys all

Wharton yeah so dud can you guys all

Wharton yeah so dud can you guys all right but it's my bachelor party and I

right but it's my bachelor party and I

right but it's my bachelor party and I can spend it in the parking lot with

can spend it in the parking lot with

can spend it in the parking lot with Anderson Cooper if I want to all right

Anderson Cooper if I want to all right

Anderson Cooper if I want to all right all right I'll see you in

all right I'll see you in

all right I'll see you in there all right okay so Anderson So like

there all right okay so Anderson So like

there all right okay so Anderson So like um first of all stripping but then like

um first of all stripping but then like

um first of all stripping but then like all the other things you're talking

all the other things you're talking

all the other things you're talking about prostitution and all that stuff

about prostitution and all that stuff

about prostitution and all that stuff that's like not the same thing at all

that's like not the same thing at all

that's like not the same thing at all you know like like you keep calling it

you know like like you keep calling it

you know like like you keep calling it The Sex industry or whatever but it's

The Sex industry or whatever but it's

The Sex industry or whatever but it's like if the girl wants to like be an

like if the girl wants to like be an

like if the girl wants to like be an exotic dancer and she's 18 like that's

exotic dancer and she's 18 like that's

exotic dancer and she's 18 like that's her

her

her right well you see I I hear what you're

right well you see I I hear what you're

right well you see I I hear what you're saying but I just feel like people they

saying but I just feel like people they

saying but I just feel like people they just want make it seem like all dudes

just want make it seem like all dudes

just want make it seem like all dudes are just like Predators like we would

are just like Predators like we would

are just like Predators like we would just like automatically go to a

just like automatically go to a

just like automatically go to a prostitute and whatever I mean even like

prostitute and whatever I mean even like

prostitute and whatever I mean even like when I pledged you know like like all

when I pledged you know like like all

when I pledged you know like like all right when I Rush my fraternity it's

right when I Rush my fraternity it's

right when I Rush my fraternity it's like you know my brothers who I'm close

like you know my brothers who I'm close

like you know my brothers who I'm close to those guys you know they're all like

to those guys you know they're all like

to those guys you know they're all like me you know we're just like normal

me you know we're just like normal

me you know we're just like normal people but like there's this myth that

people but like there's this myth that

people but like there's this myth that you must be that guy who's like kind of

you must be that guy who's like kind of

you must be that guy who's like kind of an [ __ ] and like all bros before hoes

an [ __ ] and like all bros before hoes

an [ __ ] and like all bros before hoes or whatever and actually like bros

or whatever and actually like bros

or whatever and actually like bros before ho it doesn't mean like what it

before ho it doesn't mean like what it

before ho it doesn't mean like what it sounds like like it's actually just like

sounds like like it's actually just like

sounds like like it's actually just like a joking way of saying that like you

a joking way of saying that like you

a joking way of saying that like you care about your brothers and you put

care about your brothers and you put

care about your brothers and you put them

them

them first yeah but like you can't blame the

first yeah but like you can't blame the

first yeah but like you can't blame the media either I mean like if you go watch

media either I mean like if you go watch

media either I mean like if you go watch Hangover 2 and you think that's an

Hangover 2 and you think that's an

Hangover 2 and you think that's an instruction manual for your life like I

instruction manual for your life like I

instruction manual for your life like I don't know what to tell you you know

don't know what to tell you you know

don't know what to tell you you know like you don't watch born identity and

like you don't watch born identity and

like you don't watch born identity and go drive your car over a gondola in

go drive your car over a gondola in

go drive your car over a gondola in Venice well yeah okay I mean like if

Venice well yeah okay I mean like if

Venice well yeah okay I mean like if you're a little kid or whatever of

you're a little kid or whatever of

you're a little kid or whatever of course it's different

course it's different

course it's different but yeah all right I remember one thing

but yeah all right I remember one thing

but yeah all right I remember one thing like that um

like that um

like that um I was at this kids house one time

I was at this kids house one time

I was at this kids house one time playing

playing

playing GTA uh Grand Theft Auto dude are you

GTA uh Grand Theft Auto dude are you

GTA uh Grand Theft Auto dude are you from

from

from Canada okay uh so like whatever with

Canada okay uh so like whatever with

Canada okay uh so like whatever with with Grand Theft Auto uh you're you're

with Grand Theft Auto uh you're you're

with Grand Theft Auto uh you're you're this kid like you're this guy walking

this kid like you're this guy walking

this kid like you're this guy walking around or whatever and you can basically

around or whatever and you can basically

around or whatever and you can basically like the more cops you kill like the

like the more cops you kill like the

like the more cops you kill like the more points you get and you know stuff

more points you get and you know stuff

more points you get and you know stuff like that but like also you know you can

like that but like also you know you can

like that but like also you know you can find prostitutes and you know obviously

find prostitutes and you know obviously

find prostitutes and you know obviously you can do sexual stuff with them but

you can do sexual stuff with them but

you can do sexual stuff with them but then like you can like kill them and

then like you can like kill them and

then like you can like kill them and like take your money back and stuff like

like take your money back and stuff like

like take your money back and stuff like that yeah this kid I remember he like

that yeah this kid I remember he like

that yeah this kid I remember he like ran over a couple of them a few times

ran over a couple of them a few times

ran over a couple of them a few times with his car and he got all these

with his car and he got all these

with his car and he got all these points uh we were like 10 I

points uh we were like 10 I

points uh we were like 10 I think yeah uh I mean it felt pretty

think yeah uh I mean it felt pretty

think yeah uh I mean it felt pretty terrible

terrible

terrible actually no but I think I mean I don't

actually no but I think I mean I don't

actually no but I think I mean I don't think I said anything I think I just

think I said anything I think I just

think I said anything I think I just like I just finished playing and went

like I just finished playing and went

like I just finished playing and went home all right class so then there were

home all right class so then there were

home all right class so then there were men who had more than just a passing

men who had more than just a passing

men who had more than just a passing relationship to this issue um the next

relationship to this issue um the next

relationship to this issue um the next subject described himself as a reformed

subject described himself as a reformed

subject described himself as a reformed and remorseful pimp turned motivational

and remorseful pimp turned motivational

and remorseful pimp turned motivational speaker life coach and therapist but if

speaker life coach and therapist but if

speaker life coach and therapist but if you want to know more about him you'll

you want to know more about him you'll

you want to know more about him you'll have to come to the entire play uh thank

have to come to the entire play uh thank

have to come to the entire play uh thank you so much you beautiful Ted audience I

you so much you beautiful Ted audience I

you so much you beautiful Ted audience I will see you for sell by

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