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just thought you'd like to know that

just thought you'd like to know that those of you that are Tweeting or

those of you that are Tweeting or

those of you that are Tweeting or twittering um we've now trended on the

twittering um we've now trended on the

twittering um we've now trended on the global uh top 10 with the hash uh hhl z9

global uh top 10 with the hash uh hhl z9

global uh top 10 with the hash uh hhl z9 so keep buzzing away on that it makes us

so keep buzzing away on that it makes us

so keep buzzing away on that it makes us quite proud as a as a group um our next

quite proud as a as a group um our next

quite proud as a as a group um our next speaker is Malcolm McLaren um I invited

speaker is Malcolm McLaren um I invited

speaker is Malcolm McLaren um I invited Malcolm to talk at this year's

Malcolm to talk at this year's

Malcolm to talk at this year's conference following a series of

conference following a series of

conference following a series of meetings that we had over Christmas um

meetings that we had over Christmas um

meetings that we had over Christmas um i' known Malcolm from U an earlier part

i' known Malcolm from U an earlier part

i' known Malcolm from U an earlier part of my career and we' remained in contact

of my career and we' remained in contact

of my career and we' remained in contact and stayed friends it hadn't occurred to

and stayed friends it hadn't occurred to

and stayed friends it hadn't occurred to me initially uh to tell you the truth to

me initially uh to tell you the truth to

me initially uh to tell you the truth to invite Malcolm to hand her learning

invite Malcolm to hand her learning

invite Malcolm to hand her learning being an educational conference but as

being an educational conference but as

being an educational conference but as we spoke one evening uh putting the

we spoke one evening uh putting the

we spoke one evening uh putting the world to rights uh we got onto the

world to rights uh we got onto the

world to rights uh we got onto the subject of

subject of

subject of transformation um and what was happening

transformation um and what was happening

transformation um and what was happening in the world not just in the financial

in the world not just in the financial

in the world not just in the financial markets just just generally in all areas

markets just just generally in all areas

markets just just generally in all areas and it struck me that we might not find

and it struck me that we might not find

and it struck me that we might not find too many uh malcolms in our current

too many uh malcolms in our current

too many uh malcolms in our current educational system or if they were there

educational system or if they were there

educational system or if they were there we wouldn't wouldn't develop them and

we wouldn't wouldn't develop them and

we wouldn't wouldn't develop them and wouldn't nurture them wouldn't find them

wouldn't nurture them wouldn't find them

wouldn't nurture them wouldn't find them and that this would be a loss because

and that this would be a loss because

and that this would be a loss because love Malcolm or or or not he is someone

love Malcolm or or or not he is someone

love Malcolm or or or not he is someone that has not only been successful a

that has not only been successful a

that has not only been successful a continuous reinvention but has

continuous reinvention but has

continuous reinvention but has stimulated numerous cultural movements

stimulated numerous cultural movements

stimulated numerous cultural movements within his own lifetime um I'm not going

within his own lifetime um I'm not going

within his own lifetime um I'm not going to read through an entire kind of

to read through an entire kind of

to read through an entire kind of biography because it's frankly far too

biography because it's frankly far too

biography because it's frankly far too long um you know from U managing uh

long um you know from U managing uh

long um you know from U managing uh various uh recording bands from The Sex

various uh recording bands from The Sex

various uh recording bands from The Sex Pistols Boy George adamant Bow Wow Wow

Pistols Boy George adamant Bow Wow Wow

Pistols Boy George adamant Bow Wow Wow directing films um producing um fast

directing films um producing um fast

directing films um producing um fast food nation um with Steven spilberg

food nation um with Steven spilberg

food nation um with Steven spilberg who's been working with him he ran for

who's been working with him he ran for

who's been working with him he ran for mayor getting 10% of the uh the vote

mayor getting 10% of the uh the vote

mayor getting 10% of the uh the vote um it just goes on and on um just

um it just goes on and on um just

um it just goes on and on um just recently he was exhibited at the Royal

recently he was exhibited at the Royal

recently he was exhibited at the Royal College of Art so really to Define

College of Art so really to Define

College of Art so really to Define Malcolm as this person or that person is

Malcolm as this person or that person is

Malcolm as this person or that person is very very hard for me and I think he's

very very hard for me and I think he's

very very hard for me and I think he's undefinable but what he does do is re

undefinable but what he does do is re

undefinable but what he does do is re innovate over and over again and for

innovate over and over again and for

innovate over and over again and for that I applaud him so I'd like to invite

that I applaud him so I'd like to invite

that I applaud him so I'd like to invite Malcolm McLaren to the stage um for his

Malcolm McLaren to the stage um for his

Malcolm McLaren to the stage um for his Reflections on learning Malcolm

Reflections on learning Malcolm

Reflections on learning Malcolm [Applause]

apparently

apparently

apparently well uh this is not my subject it's not

well uh this is not my subject it's not

well uh this is not my subject it's not typical of what I do I've

typical of what I do I've

typical of what I do I've actually never spoken about this

actually never spoken about this

actually never spoken about this before um so it's my first time and I uh

before um so it's my first time and I uh

before um so it's my first time and I uh was kind of Graham to ask me to come but

was kind of Graham to ask me to come but

was kind of Graham to ask me to come but it was much more difficult for me to

it was much more difficult for me to

it was much more difficult for me to think what the hell I was going to do

think what the hell I was going to do

think what the hell I was going to do here

here

here um uh my own humble experience I suppose

um uh my own humble experience I suppose

um uh my own humble experience I suppose is the best way for me to offer some use

is the best way for me to offer some use

is the best way for me to offer some use in this debate and

in this debate and

in this debate and Conference and uh my experience of

Conference and uh my experience of

Conference and uh my experience of attending or not

attending or not

attending or not attending more often schools in London

attending more often schools in London

attending more often schools in London both at Junior Senior and further

both at Junior Senior and further

both at Junior Senior and further education levels um I have these

education levels um I have these

education levels um I have these comments to make that goes towards some

comments to make that goes towards some

comments to make that goes towards some way of

way of

way of providing useful debate

providing useful debate

providing useful debate here from all the experiences I've had

here from all the experiences I've had

here from all the experiences I've had at

at

at school and that I managed to

school and that I managed to

school and that I managed to put to use

put to use

put to use here in the UK I've frankly been accused

here in the UK I've frankly been accused

here in the UK I've frankly been accused of um being a

of um being a

of um being a charlatan uh a con man um or maybe most

charlatan uh a con man um or maybe most

charlatan uh a con man um or maybe most flatteringly um a culprit responsible

flatteringly um a culprit responsible

flatteringly um a culprit responsible for turning British popular culture into

for turning British popular culture into

for turning British popular culture into nothing more than a cheap marketing

nothing more than a cheap marketing

nothing more than a cheap marketing gimmick and maybe this is right now my

gimmick and maybe this is right now my

gimmick and maybe this is right now my chance of proving everything they've

chance of proving everything they've

chance of proving everything they've said is abs absolutely

said is abs absolutely

said is abs absolutely true

um for me to sum

um for me to sum

um for me to sum up and it's important to sum up if you

up and it's important to sum up if you

up and it's important to sum up if you can all popular culture

can all popular culture

can all popular culture today in a simple

today in a simple

today in a simple phrase is really Akin I think in many

phrase is really Akin I think in many

phrase is really Akin I think in many respects to the word

respects to the word

respects to the word education um all popular culture today

education um all popular culture today

education um all popular culture today from Hollywood and all that that means

from Hollywood and all that that means

from Hollywood and all that that means television the

television the

television the media event even

media event even

media event even politics

politics

politics accepts and goes to Great Lengths I

accepts and goes to Great Lengths I

accepts and goes to Great Lengths I think to promote the

think to promote the

think to promote the idea that it's cool to be

stupid

stupid

stupid and for that

and for that

and for that it's a huge problem whatever anybody

it's a huge problem whatever anybody

it's a huge problem whatever anybody says about education today in the

says about education today in the

says about education today in the western world and particularly I think

western world and particularly I think

western world and particularly I think in the Anglo-Saxon

in the Anglo-Saxon

in the Anglo-Saxon World um I was

World um I was

World um I was born in a culture of

born in a culture of

born in a culture of necessity just after the

necessity just after the

necessity just after the war and today we live far more in a

war and today we live far more in a

war and today we live far more in a culture of

culture of

culture of desires desire to become famous

desires desire to become famous

desires desire to become famous overnight

overnight

overnight um life's actual chosen

um life's actual chosen

um life's actual chosen goal uh not to learn to be intelligent

goal uh not to learn to be intelligent

goal uh not to learn to be intelligent to gain experience or

to gain experience or

to gain experience or skills um not to spend time struggling

skills um not to spend time struggling

skills um not to spend time struggling on anything like

on anything like

on anything like that um but to Simply desire instant

that um but to Simply desire instant

that um but to Simply desire instant success and

success and

success and hence what the UK have done is in

hence what the UK have done is in

hence what the UK have done is in popular culture Al terms is invent

popular culture Al terms is invent

popular culture Al terms is invent something called the talent

something called the talent

something called the talent show that's its Legacy as far as I can

show that's its Legacy as far as I can

show that's its Legacy as far as I can tell how on Earth you might say can a

tell how on Earth you might say can a

tell how on Earth you might say can a child uh care about acquiring even an

child uh care about acquiring even an

child uh care about acquiring even an education if the culture itself is

education if the culture itself is

education if the culture itself is determined in making people who have

determined in making people who have

determined in making people who have little or or no education at all feel

little or or no education at all feel

little or or no education at all feel cool uh everyone in

cool uh everyone in

cool uh everyone in uh this Society that's

uh this Society that's

uh this Society that's based on that can all I think claim to

based on that can all I think claim to

based on that can all I think claim to be

be

be successful for this world we live in

successful for this world we live in

successful for this world we live in today is No More in my opinion than a

today is No More in my opinion than a

today is No More in my opinion than a karaoke World an aarts

karaoke World an aarts

karaoke World an aarts society which provides us with only the

society which provides us with only the

society which provides us with only the opportunity to

opportunity to

opportunity to Revel in our

Revel in our

Revel in our stupidity and to be successful at doing

stupidity and to be successful at doing

stupidity and to be successful at doing just

just

just that if I were to sum up

that if I were to sum up

that if I were to sum up um I guess in two

words uh how to

words uh how to

words uh how to explain what my struggle is what exists

explain what my struggle is what exists

explain what my struggle is what exists today in terms of um the battlefield

there are two words that sum up that

there are two words that sum up that

there are two words that sum up that culture it is uh one is

authenticity and the other dare I say it

authenticity and the other dare I say it

authenticity and the other dare I say it is

karaoke a karaoke world is a is is a

karaoke a karaoke world is a is is a

karaoke a karaoke world is a is is a world in which

world in which

world in which life is lived by

life is lived by

life is lived by proxy and it's it's life that's

proxy and it's it's life that's

proxy and it's it's life that's liberated by

liberated by

liberated by hindsight and it's

hindsight and it's

hindsight and it's encumbered by what I call the messy

encumbered by what I call the messy

encumbered by what I call the messy process of

creativity in a karaoke world you're

creativity in a karaoke world you're

creativity in a karaoke world you're free from any real

free from any real

free from any real responsibility beyond that moment of

responsibility beyond that moment of

responsibility beyond that moment of performance it's something that Tony

performance it's something that Tony

performance it's something that Tony Blair made a great success

Blair made a great success

Blair made a great success of authenticity on the other

of authenticity on the other

of authenticity on the other hand is truthfully

hand is truthfully

hand is truthfully um something that is more or less the

um something that is more or less the

um something that is more or less the opposite

opposite

opposite it's it's

it's it's

it's it's about

about

about discovering I

discovering I

discovering I suppose something that is

suppose something that is

suppose something that is real that can only be achieved through a

real that can only be achieved through a

real that can only be achieved through a struggle that Ador um

struggle that Ador um

struggle that Ador um romanticizes and and actually makes that

romanticizes and and actually makes that

romanticizes and and actually makes that messy

messy

messy process a romantic and Noble

process a romantic and Noble

process a romantic and Noble pursuit in a karaoke

pursuit in a karaoke

pursuit in a karaoke World everyone and everything is for

World everyone and everything is for

World everyone and everything is for sale I I recall Tony Blair trying to

sale I I recall Tony Blair trying to

sale I I recall Tony Blair trying to Brand the UK as cool

Brand the UK as cool

Brand the UK as cool britania how stupid did we all think we

britania how stupid did we all think we

britania how stupid did we all think we were to listen to such

were to listen to such

were to listen to such trollops uh the man was an absolute

trollops uh the man was an absolute

trollops uh the man was an absolute buffoon and should have been hung you

buffoon and should have been hung you

buffoon and should have been hung you know at the

know at the

know at the first point on Marble Arch where tyon

first point on Marble Arch where tyon

first point on Marble Arch where tyon once stood

once stood

once stood um as far as I was

um as far as I was

um as far as I was concerned

concerned

concerned you you

you you

you you really have to look hard

today at a situation in which in a

today at a situation in which in a

today at a situation in which in a karaoke world everything and everyone is

karaoke world everything and everyone is

karaoke world everything and everyone is for sale in a in a world that struggles

for sale in a in a world that struggles

for sale in a in a world that struggles to find something

to find something

to find something authentic

authentic

authentic um and maybe you do bit like looking for

um and maybe you do bit like looking for

um and maybe you do bit like looking for a ruby in a field of tin I'd

a ruby in a field of tin I'd

a ruby in a field of tin I'd say and it invariably or usually is not

say and it invariably or usually is not

say and it invariably or usually is not for

for

for sale so what do most artists what do

sale so what do most artists what do

sale so what do most artists what do most creat ative people do they they

most creat ative people do they they

most creat ative people do they they spend their entire lives actually trying

spend their entire lives actually trying

spend their entire lives actually trying to

to

to authenticate a karaoke culture but to do

authenticate a karaoke culture but to do

authenticate a karaoke culture but to do that you have to be some kind of

that you have to be some kind of

that you have to be some kind of Alchemist a

Alchemist a

Alchemist a magician to make that

magician to make that

magician to make that happen and they and those people are

happen and they and those people are

happen and they and those people are very rare

today

today

today I I was a war baby

I I was a war baby

I I was a war baby um that means someone whose parents met

um that means someone whose parents met

um that means someone whose parents met during the war you were born directly

during the war you were born directly

during the war you were born directly after the war and they immediately split

after the war and they immediately split

after the war and they immediately split up on gazing at you for the first time

up on gazing at you for the first time

up on gazing at you for the first time you came out of that

you came out of that

you came out of that hole

um to be at

um to be at

um to be at school proved difficult for

school proved difficult for

school proved difficult for me um proved difficult for probably a

me um proved difficult for probably a

me um proved difficult for probably a lot of other War babies

lot of other War babies

lot of other War babies school and life back then was pretty

school and life back then was pretty

school and life back then was pretty disorganized

disorganized

disorganized um and all I can recall is spending one

um and all I can recall is spending one

um and all I can recall is spending one day at the age of five in school and I

day at the age of five in school and I

day at the age of five in school and I never attended again till I was nearly

never attended again till I was nearly

never attended again till I was nearly eight years of age so I didn't go to

eight years of age so I didn't go to

eight years of age so I didn't go to school where most people went to school

school where most people went to school

school where most people went to school I actually hid inside my grandmother's

I actually hid inside my grandmother's

I actually hid inside my grandmother's house and only looked at the world

house and only looked at the world

house and only looked at the world through the letter box often for the

through the letter box often for the

through the letter box often for the laundry man or the ancient Breton

laundry man or the ancient Breton

laundry man or the ancient Breton creature on his Bite coming to sell

creature on his Bite coming to sell

creature on his Bite coming to sell onions at a particular time of year or

onions at a particular time of year or

onions at a particular time of year or some guy walking around trying to pick

some guy walking around trying to pick

some guy walking around trying to pick up scrap iron there were

up scrap iron there were

up scrap iron there were 101 different kinds of town criers in

101 different kinds of town criers in

101 different kinds of town criers in those days offering their wees at all

those days offering their wees at all

those days offering their wees at all Junctions in the village of stoke

Junctions in the village of stoke

Junctions in the village of stoke Newington where I

Newington where I

Newington where I lived London was diff different then you

lived London was diff different then you

lived London was diff different then you never spoke to the police

never spoke to the police

never spoke to the police you never dared it was considered

you never dared it was considered

you never dared it was considered something scary um you just spoke to

something scary um you just spoke to

something scary um you just spoke to villains gangsters who stood on the

villains gangsters who stood on the

villains gangsters who stood on the street corners offering you all kinds of

street corners offering you all kinds of

street corners offering you all kinds of things that you couldn't ordinarily Buy

things that you couldn't ordinarily Buy

things that you couldn't ordinarily Buy in the

in the

in the stores uh London was a a band of

stores uh London was a a band of

stores uh London was a a band of communities and the education you had

communities and the education you had

communities and the education you had was the experience on that

was the experience on that

was the experience on that street it taught you many things and as

street it taught you many things and as

street it taught you many things and as the economy got going those things began

the economy got going those things began

the economy got going those things began to Peter out and

to Peter out and

to Peter out and change uh suddenly you you you you were

change uh suddenly you you you you were

change uh suddenly you you you you were confronted with

confronted with

confronted with TV a program I recall as a child called

TV a program I recall as a child called

TV a program I recall as a child called Dixon of do green that professed the and

Dixon of do green that professed the and

Dixon of do green that professed the and I think it must have been sheer

I think it must have been sheer

I think it must have been sheer propaganda on behalf of the BBC and the

propaganda on behalf of the BBC and the

propaganda on behalf of the BBC and the government to mine that to get people to

government to mine that to get people to

government to mine that to get people to talk to policemen if they were ever in

talk to policemen if they were ever in

talk to policemen if they were ever in trouble and this guy was your good

trouble and this guy was your good

trouble and this guy was your good neighborly policeman called Mr Dixon PC

neighborly policeman called Mr Dixon PC

neighborly policeman called Mr Dixon PC Dixon and every Saturday night at the

Dixon and every Saturday night at the

Dixon and every Saturday night at the right time he would come on and and show

right time he would come on and and show

right time he would come on and and show you and demonstrate how good and godly

you and demonstrate how good and godly

you and demonstrate how good and godly he

he

he was of course my grandmother immediately

was of course my grandmother immediately

was of course my grandmother immediately turned off the TV and thought this is

turned off the TV and thought this is

turned off the TV and thought this is complete garbage you can't watch this

complete garbage you can't watch this

complete garbage you can't watch this you can't speak to such filth and um I

you can't speak to such filth and um I

you can't speak to such filth and um I understood at an early age that England

understood at an early age that England

understood at an early age that England um

um

um bred and uh basically

bred and uh basically

bred and uh basically taught through

taught through

taught through TV and later on through

TV and later on through

TV and later on through school what I can best describe as a

school what I can best describe as a

school what I can best describe as a culture of

culture of

culture of deception England was a nation of liars

deception England was a nation of liars

deception England was a nation of liars born in

born in

born in school uh you would at the age of eight

school uh you would at the age of eight

school uh you would at the age of eight I recall confronting a classroom where a

I recall confronting a classroom where a

I recall confronting a classroom where a large politic map of the world existed

large politic map of the world existed

large politic map of the world existed on the wall and the teacher with long

on the wall and the teacher with long

on the wall and the teacher with long came would hit that um map every so

came would hit that um map every so

came would hit that um map every so often and on it much of it was painted

often and on it much of it was painted

often and on it much of it was painted in this Dreadful horrible Cam and pink

in this Dreadful horrible Cam and pink

in this Dreadful horrible Cam and pink it was

it was

it was gy and he he looked at the saw and said

gy and he he looked at the saw and said

gy and he he looked at the saw and said that's

that's

that's ours you looking at it it was more or

ours you looking at it it was more or

ours you looking at it it was more or less half or more of the

less half or more of the

less half or more of the world of course when you when you left

world of course when you when you left

world of course when you when you left school you realized it was complete

school you realized it was complete

school you realized it was complete nonsense none of it was it had all

nonsense none of it was it had all

nonsense none of it was it had all changed he was practicing and talking

changed he was practicing and talking

changed he was practicing and talking about things that really didn't

about things that really didn't

about things that really didn't truthfully exist and he didn't dare

truthfully exist and he didn't dare

truthfully exist and he didn't dare discuss all the Insurgency battles that

discuss all the Insurgency battles that

discuss all the Insurgency battles that were going on as people continued to

were going on as people continued to

were going on as people continued to claim back and liberate themselves from

claim back and liberate themselves from

claim back and liberate themselves from such

such

such authorism and and fearful

authorism and and fearful

authorism and and fearful repression by the English so-called

repression by the English so-called

repression by the English so-called Empire this you learned of course as you

Empire this you learned of course as you

Empire this you learned of course as you got

older um in secondary

older um in secondary

older um in secondary school I did like a few

school I did like a few

school I did like a few teachers I recall one who constantly he

teachers I recall one who constantly he

teachers I recall one who constantly he was in charge of

was in charge of

was in charge of history and he had a joke he said about

history and he had a joke he said about

history and he had a joke he said about Marilyn Monroe and the

Marilyn Monroe and the

Marilyn Monroe and the cannibals and every time we asked him to

cannibals and every time we asked him to

cannibals and every time we asked him to tell us this joke he would said no no no

tell us this joke he would said no no no

tell us this joke he would said no no no you're you're far too

you're you're far too

you're you're far too young I recall him at the end of the

young I recall him at the end of the

young I recall him at the end of the first term when I was like others

first term when I was like others

first term when I was like others dragged into the school assembly room

dragged into the school assembly room

dragged into the school assembly room and he jumped up on stage and he played

and he jumped up on stage and he played

and he jumped up on stage and he played a song on the piano and it was the first

a song on the piano and it was the first

a song on the piano and it was the first time I

time I

time I witnessed what I suppose could be termed

witnessed what I suppose could be termed

witnessed what I suppose could be termed then a rock and roll record a rock and

then a rock and roll record a rock and

then a rock and roll record a rock and roll song it was called goodness

roll song it was called goodness

roll song it was called goodness gracious Great Balls of Fire and I

gracious Great Balls of Fire and I

gracious Great Balls of Fire and I watched him and I actually thought his

watched him and I actually thought his

watched him and I actually thought his head was going to fall off his shoulders

head was going to fall off his shoulders

head was going to fall off his shoulders because it was shaking so much and I was

because it was shaking so much and I was

because it was shaking so much and I was sitting front row and I thought I was

sitting front row and I thought I was

sitting front row and I thought I was going to get it in my

going to get it in my

going to get it in my lap and it was I have to say it was a

lap and it was I have to say it was a

lap and it was I have to say it was a cultural moment for me and um it did

cultural moment for me and um it did

cultural moment for me and um it did transport me in some strange way as I

transport me in some strange way as I

transport me in some strange way as I began to reach

began to reach

began to reach puberty that that sense of uh of

puberty that that sense of uh of

puberty that that sense of uh of Desire um hit me where it truly hurt and

Desire um hit me where it truly hurt and

Desire um hit me where it truly hurt and you went out and you grabbed all you

you went out and you grabbed all you

you went out and you grabbed all you could not that you got very much at the

could not that you got very much at the

could not that you got very much at the end one prayed at the altar but you

end one prayed at the altar but you

end one prayed at the altar but you didn't get any sex or sexual

didn't get any sex or sexual

didn't get any sex or sexual satisfaction as MC Jagger was later to

satisfaction as MC Jagger was later to

satisfaction as MC Jagger was later to recall

um I

um I

um I finally after leaving school at

finally after leaving school at

finally after leaving school at 16 not wanting to continue anymore I'd

16 not wanting to continue anymore I'd

16 not wanting to continue anymore I'd spent most of my days I have to say uh

spent most of my days I have to say uh

spent most of my days I have to say uh digging up the garden at the back of the

digging up the garden at the back of the

digging up the garden at the back of the staff room because I was consistently

staff room because I was consistently

staff room because I was consistently late literally 300 days a

late literally 300 days a

late literally 300 days a year and um

year and um

year and um most of my breaks and time was spent

most of my breaks and time was spent

most of my breaks and time was spent looking at

looking at

looking at worms

worms

worms um I was glad to leave I guess but not

um I was glad to leave I guess but not

um I was glad to leave I guess but not glad to have a

glad to have a

glad to have a job uh my mother a dreadful

job uh my mother a dreadful

job uh my mother a dreadful snob desire desired something for me and

snob desire desired something for me and

snob desire desired something for me and upon looking at the labor

upon looking at the labor

upon looking at the labor exchange and the man who read out like a

exchange and the man who read out like a

exchange and the man who read out like a Magna carter a whole list of

Magna carter a whole list of

Magna carter a whole list of possibilities and

possibilities and

possibilities and Prospects from a shelling peas in a

Prospects from a shelling peas in a

Prospects from a shelling peas in a factory to making of bros or some such

factory to making of bros or some such

factory to making of bros or some such nonsense um and then something that

nonsense um and then something that

nonsense um and then something that caught my mother's attention was a

caught my mother's attention was a

caught my mother's attention was a traine wine

traine wine

traine wine taster God knows I hadn't even drunk a

taster God knows I hadn't even drunk a

taster God knows I hadn't even drunk a glass of wi I had no idea what was going

glass of wi I had no idea what was going

glass of wi I had no idea what was going on but that was it for her this was

on but that was it for her this was

on but that was it for her this was something she could at least exchange

something she could at least exchange

something she could at least exchange with others at some Suare or cocktail

with others at some Suare or cocktail

with others at some Suare or cocktail party that her son was a trainee why so

party that her son was a trainee why so

party that her son was a trainee why so I ended up in a deenan Garrett at the

I ended up in a deenan Garrett at the

I ended up in a deenan Garrett at the top of an old building adjacent to the

top of an old building adjacent to the

top of an old building adjacent to the Royal Academy of Art in

Royal Academy of Art in

Royal Academy of Art in London and there I was confronted with

London and there I was confronted with

London and there I was confronted with these

these

these horrible

horrible

horrible military ex-generals and captains who

military ex-generals and captains who

military ex-generals and captains who had obviously lived their life in a

had obviously lived their life in a

had obviously lived their life in a hammock in some godamn Far Eastern place

hammock in some godamn Far Eastern place

hammock in some godamn Far Eastern place in Borneo or somewhere with a crate of

in Borneo or somewhere with a crate of

in Borneo or somewhere with a crate of boile under it drinking their life away

boile under it drinking their life away

boile under it drinking their life away because their faces were so red I just

because their faces were so red I just

because their faces were so red I just couldn't believe it and there they had

couldn't believe it and there they had

couldn't believe it and there they had blue lines through it like a

blue lines through it like a

blue lines through it like a cheese and and so we would with a number

cheese and and so we would with a number

cheese and and so we would with a number of

of

of other uh kids into this wine tasting

other uh kids into this wine tasting

other uh kids into this wine tasting career um would address him in private

career um would address him in private

career um would address him in private as old

as old

as old blueface

blueface

blueface um it wasn't fun but it was interesting

um it wasn't fun but it was interesting

um it wasn't fun but it was interesting when I recall now having to tell these

when I recall now having to tell these

when I recall now having to tell these stories to you that London was a forlorn

stories to you that London was a forlorn

stories to you that London was a forlorn place and these people were people

place and these people were people

place and these people were people coming back from Once having ruled the

coming back from Once having ruled the

coming back from Once having ruled the Empire to now still in their mid 40s and

Empire to now still in their mid 40s and

Empire to now still in their mid 40s and and having certain life left in them to

and having certain life left in them to

and having certain life left in them to work were now on civvy Street teaching

work were now on civvy Street teaching

work were now on civvy Street teaching us can you imagine about wine tasting

us can you imagine about wine tasting

us can you imagine about wine tasting well let me tell you how it went this

well let me tell you how it went this

well let me tell you how it went this form of Education was extraordinary

form of Education was extraordinary

form of Education was extraordinary because I was a

because I was a

because I was a virgin as were many

virgin as were many

virgin as were many others in in the group at the

others in in the group at the

others in in the group at the time well wine would be discussed not in

time well wine would be discussed not in

time well wine would be discussed not in terms of citrus fruits black currants

terms of citrus fruits black currants

terms of citrus fruits black currants eight preot or whatever but totally in

eight preot or whatever but totally in

eight preot or whatever but totally in terms of

terms of

terms of sex it's wine it's got too much fat

sex it's wine it's got too much fat

sex it's wine it's got too much fat under the

under the

under the arm this one virginal needs to open a

arm this one virginal needs to open a

arm this one virginal needs to open a bit get that leg spread out McLaren and

bit get that leg spread out McLaren and

bit get that leg spread out McLaren and then we can drink it as God appointed us

then we can drink it as God appointed us

then we can drink it as God appointed us this wine that's all right for those

this wine that's all right for those

this wine that's all right for those frogs taste like an Army's been through

frogs taste like an Army's been through

frogs taste like an Army's been through it this Rine

it this Rine

it this Rine doesn't know what sex it

doesn't know what sex it

doesn't know what sex it is this

is this

is this wine definitely

homosexual well you have to

homosexual well you have to

homosexual well you have to imagine this was all done with

imagine this was all done with

imagine this was all done with blindfolds as you were hearing this guy

blindfolds as you were hearing this guy

blindfolds as you were hearing this guy beating your head with such stuff and

beating your head with such stuff and

beating your head with such stuff and you having tasted the wine yes sir you

you having tasted the wine yes sir you

you having tasted the wine yes sir you would say this Wine's virginal yes sir

would say this Wine's virginal yes sir

would say this Wine's virginal yes sir it needs to open up a bit air a bit so

it needs to open up a bit air a bit so

it needs to open up a bit air a bit so then we can drink it right so just like

then we can drink it right so just like

then we can drink it right so just like God appointed

God appointed

God appointed us that's right McLaren and what's this

us that's right McLaren and what's this

us that's right McLaren and what's this like tastes like an Army's been through

like tastes like an Army's been through

like tastes like an Army's been through it sir all mud dirty horrible that's

it sir all mud dirty horrible that's

it sir all mud dirty horrible that's right just good for the frogs but not

right just good for the frogs but not

right just good for the frogs but not for us English we don't we don't go in

for us English we don't we don't go in

for us English we don't we don't go in for that

for that

for that stuff and at the end of every lunch

stuff and at the end of every lunch

stuff and at the end of every lunch hour we would uh be Marshal downstairs

hour we would uh be Marshal downstairs

hour we would uh be Marshal downstairs like we're in the army

like we're in the army

like we're in the army and walk we would walk with the colonel

and walk we would walk with the colonel

and walk we would walk with the colonel at the front across Picadilly down into

at the front across Picadilly down into

at the front across Picadilly down into some greasy spoon little

some greasy spoon little

some greasy spoon little cafe and with our so-called luncheon

cafe and with our so-called luncheon

cafe and with our so-called luncheon vouchers we would indulge in spotted

vouchers we would indulge in spotted

vouchers we would indulge in spotted dick which was one of the feasts in such

dick which was one of the feasts in such

dick which was one of the feasts in such cafes at that

cafes at that

cafes at that time if I recall it was a sausage roll

time if I recall it was a sausage roll

time if I recall it was a sausage roll with custard over

with custard over

with custard over it um

it um

it um it was absolutely Dreadful and

it was absolutely Dreadful and

it was absolutely Dreadful and uh one day I just couldn't take it

uh one day I just couldn't take it

uh one day I just couldn't take it anymore I would always be arriving home

anymore I would always be arriving home

anymore I would always be arriving home drunk I would never ever get off at the

drunk I would never ever get off at the

drunk I would never ever get off at the stop on the Underground that I was

stop on the Underground that I was

stop on the Underground that I was supposed to I would end up always at the

supposed to I would end up always at the

supposed to I would end up always at the end of the line waking up and going all

end of the line waking up and going all

end of the line waking up and going all the way back to my stop it was

the way back to my stop it was

the way back to my stop it was impossible because I was not used to

impossible because I was not used to

impossible because I was not used to Wine even though we spat it out it

Wine even though we spat it out it

Wine even though we spat it out it didn't matter 11s is and

didn't matter 11s is and

didn't matter 11s is and 4:00 you think we're time for tea oh no

4:00 you think we're time for tea oh no

4:00 you think we're time for tea oh no not here it was time to indulge in every

not here it was time to indulge in every

not here it was time to indulge in every kind of port and Cherry the company

kind of port and Cherry the company

kind of port and Cherry the company sandim uh were proud of you even had to

sandim uh were proud of you even had to

sandim uh were proud of you even had to wear their

wear their

wear their cufflinks and

cufflinks and

cufflinks and um one day I decided to avoid this

um one day I decided to avoid this

um one day I decided to avoid this kernel and dive into an

kernel and dive into an

kernel and dive into an Alco uh one a shop of some some sort I

Alco uh one a shop of some some sort I

Alco uh one a shop of some some sort I thought and let the the the group March

thought and let the the the group March

thought and let the the the group March past and wait there with my heartbeating

past and wait there with my heartbeating

past and wait there with my heartbeating for about four or five

for about four or five

for about four or five minutes thinking and hoping the coast

minutes thinking and hoping the coast

minutes thinking and hoping the coast was clear I would then relax and I was

was clear I would then relax and I was

was clear I would then relax and I was happen it was a complete chance incident

happen it was a complete chance incident

happen it was a complete chance incident I happened to be standing in the

I happened to be standing in the

I happened to be standing in the foyer or of of St Martin's School of Art

foyer or of of St Martin's School of Art

foyer or of of St Martin's School of Art on jaring Cross

on jaring Cross

on jaring Cross Road and I thought these girls looked

Road and I thought these girls looked

Road and I thought these girls looked great as they kept filing past and I

great as they kept filing past and I

great as they kept filing past and I followed them in uh

followed them in uh

followed them in uh curious to see what was inside this

curious to see what was inside this

curious to see what was inside this school and I came across as I marched

school and I came across as I marched

school and I came across as I marched upstairs looking through these little

upstairs looking through these little

upstairs looking through these little windows at people on

windows at people on

windows at people on easel um drawing with charcoal and

easel um drawing with charcoal and

easel um drawing with charcoal and pencil this huge abundant woman with

pencil this huge abundant woman with

pencil this huge abundant woman with enormous breasts utterly naked and I

enormous breasts utterly naked and I

enormous breasts utterly naked and I thought oh this is a far better

thought oh this is a far better

thought oh this is a far better job what do I want to be doing with

job what do I want to be doing with

job what do I want to be doing with these kernels this is Dreadful I've got

these kernels this is Dreadful I've got

these kernels this is Dreadful I've got to get myself fired and I promptly did

to get myself fired and I promptly did

to get myself fired and I promptly did by smoking a whole packet of those

by smoking a whole packet of those

by smoking a whole packet of those filthy French cigarettes as they called

filthy French cigarettes as they called

filthy French cigarettes as they called jitan and filled the tasting room with

jitan and filled the tasting room with

jitan and filled the tasting room with clouds of smoke so when the colonel

clouds of smoke so when the colonel

clouds of smoke so when the colonel arrived back from lunch he would declare

arrived back from lunch he would declare

arrived back from lunch he would declare in his most racist and nasty term what

in his most racist and nasty term what

in his most racist and nasty term what filthy Turk has been in here and of

filthy Turk has been in here and of

filthy Turk has been in here and of course I immediately

course I immediately

course I immediately claimed the guilty party and he said I'm

claimed the guilty party and he said I'm

claimed the guilty party and he said I'm going to write to your mother you're

going to write to your mother you're

going to write to your mother you're nothing more than a

nothing more than a

nothing more than a sabot and of course I adored the very

sabot and of course I adored the very

sabot and of course I adored the very thought that I was now going to be

thought that I was now going to be

thought that I was now going to be thrown out and shortly afterwards I did

thrown out and shortly afterwards I did

thrown out and shortly afterwards I did against my my mother's

against my my mother's

against my my mother's wishes attend art

wishes attend art

wishes attend art school art school became very

school art school became very

school art school became very interesting to me for the first time in

interesting to me for the first time in

interesting to me for the first time in my

my

my education in

education in

education in that uh by

that uh by

that uh by drawing by working on my

drawing by working on my

drawing by working on my creative um

creative um

creative um side it helped me get along with myself

side it helped me get along with myself

side it helped me get along with myself it provided me with a weigh in to a

it provided me with a weigh in to a

it provided me with a weigh in to a world that I didn't truth TR F quite

world that I didn't truth TR F quite

world that I didn't truth TR F quite understand it gave me an identity that I

understand it gave me an identity that I

understand it gave me an identity that I actually didn't have and it gave me a

Pursuit funnily enough this may shock

Pursuit funnily enough this may shock

Pursuit funnily enough this may shock most of you because I'm so old and

most of you because I'm so old and

most of you because I'm so old and you're so young um that at that time on

you're so young um that at that time on

you're so young um that at that time on my first day in art

my first day in art

my first day in art school I recall I was surrounded by kids

school I recall I was surrounded by kids

school I recall I was surrounded by kids in short

in short

in short trousers I thought my God I didn't

trousers I thought my God I didn't

trousers I thought my God I didn't realize it we're starting in the junior

realize it we're starting in the junior

realize it we're starting in the junior I thought I was being put into the

I thought I was being put into the

I thought I was being put into the junior Department of this art school but

junior Department of this art school but

junior Department of this art school but no these 12 year olds were chosen chosen

no these 12 year olds were chosen chosen

no these 12 year olds were chosen chosen from local schools as having a certain

from local schools as having a certain

from local schools as having a certain Talent poached out of those

Talent poached out of those

Talent poached out of those schools and put into an art school so

schools and put into an art school so

schools and put into an art school so they could develop that side of

they could develop that side of

they could develop that side of themselves that may be genius

that was back in those days and uh I

that was back in those days and uh I

that was back in those days and uh I think that

think that

think that followed the the the actual

followed the the the actual

followed the the the actual Manifesto of none other than that grand

Manifesto of none other than that grand

Manifesto of none other than that grand old socialist designer artist William

old socialist designer artist William

old socialist designer artist William Morris and if it hadn't have been as

Morris and if it hadn't have been as

Morris and if it hadn't have been as some teachers said for old Bill Morris

some teachers said for old Bill Morris

some teachers said for old Bill Morris none of us would be here because he was

none of us would be here because he was

none of us would be here because he was the guy that set out to hammer down the

the guy that set out to hammer down the

the guy that set out to hammer down the door of Queen Victoria to make everyone

door of Queen Victoria to make everyone

door of Queen Victoria to make everyone throughout this country at least a day

throughout this country at least a day

throughout this country at least a day or so after toiling in the factory or

or so after toiling in the factory or

or so after toiling in the factory or working in the mines to get up and make

working in the mines to get up and make

working in the mines to get up and make something beautiful with their lives

something beautiful with their lives

something beautiful with their lives with some for in some form or another a

with some for in some form or another a

with some for in some form or another a piece of embroidery a pot a painting and

piece of embroidery a pot a painting and

piece of embroidery a pot a painting and so on and during the course of that all

so on and during the course of that all

so on and during the course of that all these so-called working class

these so-called working class

these so-called working class institutions were created which later

institutions were created which later

institutions were created which later were labeled art schools and a voila

were labeled art schools and a voila

were labeled art schools and a voila this is where I sat my first lecture was

this is where I sat my first lecture was

this is where I sat my first lecture was very important to me I didn't know at

very important to me I didn't know at

very important to me I didn't know at the

the

the time a goaty bearded Professor probably

time a goaty bearded Professor probably

time a goaty bearded Professor probably still hanging on to those romantic ideas

still hanging on to those romantic ideas

still hanging on to those romantic ideas of William Blake or or or William

of William Blake or or or William

of William Blake or or or William Morris struck a cord that made it

Morris struck a cord that made it

Morris struck a cord that made it difficult for everyone knew in

difficult for everyone knew in

difficult for everyone knew in attendance the little 12y old boys in

attendance the little 12y old boys in

attendance the little 12y old boys in short trouses

short trouses

short trouses uh myself and

uh myself and

uh myself and others of what our role was of what we

others of what our role was of what we

others of what our role was of what we came to be and why we came to be in this

came to be and why we came to be in this

came to be and why we came to be in this art

art

art school it was clear as he said if you

school it was clear as he said if you

school it was clear as he said if you think any one of

think any one of

think any one of you are going to be

you are going to be

you are going to be successful painters sculptors graphic

successful painters sculptors graphic

successful painters sculptors graphic designers filmmakers fashion designers

designers filmmakers fashion designers

designers filmmakers fashion designers and so on

there's the

door because you're bloody not not any

door because you're bloody not not any

door because you're bloody not not any one of you and we'd only literally been

one of you and we'd only literally been

one of you and we'd only literally been in that school for a half an hour and

in that school for a half an hour and

in that school for a half an hour and one's head sunk into one's shoulders and

one's head sunk into one's shoulders and

one's head sunk into one's shoulders and you really didn't want to catch his

you really didn't want to catch his

you really didn't want to catch his attention and you didn't know what was

attention and you didn't know what was

attention and you didn't know what was coming

coming

coming next a few minutes elapsed and then he

next a few minutes elapsed and then he

next a few minutes elapsed and then he said well you know what it is

said well you know what it is

said well you know what it is that you're going to do is you're going

that you're going to do is you're going

that you're going to do is you're going to learn how to

to learn how to

to learn how to fail what did that truthfully mean was

fail what did that truthfully mean was

fail what did that truthfully mean was difficult for a 17-year-old like myself

difficult for a 17-year-old like myself

difficult for a 17-year-old like myself and others to

and others to

and others to understand and then he went further and

understand and then he went further and

understand and then he went further and he said well you know failure is not so

he said well you know failure is not so

he said well you know failure is not so bad it helps you get up in the morning

bad it helps you get up in the morning

bad it helps you get up in the morning take the pillow off your head roll up

take the pillow off your head roll up

take the pillow off your head roll up your sleeves this is a messy job being

your sleeves this is a messy job being

your sleeves this is a messy job being an artist

and then he walked out a year later many

and then he walked out a year later many

and then he walked out a year later many had fallen off the cliff and there were

had fallen off the cliff and there were

had fallen off the cliff and there were maybe half of us left and he

maybe half of us left and he

maybe half of us left and he reappeared a little older of course but

reappeared a little older of course but

reappeared a little older of course but with the same aggression and the same

with the same aggression and the same

with the same aggression and the same serious tone and so he said so I think

serious tone and so he said so I think

serious tone and so he said so I think maybe some of you have

maybe some of you have

maybe some of you have learned about

failure and we didn't know quite like

failure and we didn't know quite like

failure and we didn't know quite like what he

what he

what he meant and we thought yeah maybe he said

meant and we thought yeah maybe he said

meant and we thought yeah maybe he said well don't think you can just bloody

well don't think you can just bloody

well don't think you can just bloody fail thought oh my God what is he saying

fail thought oh my God what is he saying

fail thought oh my God what is he saying now and he would continued to

now and he would continued to

now and he would continued to say because you can't just bloody fail

say because you can't just bloody fail

say because you can't just bloody fail you got to learn how to be a magnificent

you got to learn how to be a magnificent

you got to learn how to be a magnificent brilliant flamboyant failure rather than

brilliant flamboyant failure rather than

brilliant flamboyant failure rather than any kind of benign

any kind of benign

any kind of benign success that phrase haunted me for the

success that phrase haunted me for the

success that phrase haunted me for the next five

next five

next five years I actually didn't know what he was

years I actually didn't know what he was

years I actually didn't know what he was saying but I learned that it was

saying but I learned that it was

saying but I learned that it was something rather deep and important in

something rather deep and important in

something rather deep and important in my

my

my education as an

artist and I finally came to understand

artist and I finally came to understand

artist and I finally came to understand it it was about being

it it was about being

it it was about being Fearless Fearless of failing because

Fearless Fearless of failing because

Fearless Fearless of failing because that was the only way you would ever

that was the only way you would ever

that was the only way you would ever find anything out for yourself that

find anything out for yourself that

find anything out for yourself that counted it was the struggle of doing

counted it was the struggle of doing

counted it was the struggle of doing that it was a journey said Without End

that it was a journey said Without End

that it was a journey said Without End because upon arrival if you ever do

because upon arrival if you ever do

because upon arrival if you ever do arrive when you do you'll be

arrive when you do you'll be

arrive when you do you'll be dead and for me it became clear that

dead and for me it became clear that

dead and for me it became clear that that was the only way to achieve any

that was the only way to achieve any

that was the only way to achieve any kind of progress any possibility of

kind of progress any possibility of

kind of progress any possibility of changing the culture

changing the culture

changing the culture and indeed maybe just for a moment

and indeed maybe just for a moment

and indeed maybe just for a moment changing life

changing life

changing life itself that was a very romantic

itself that was a very romantic

itself that was a very romantic philosophy that pursuit of learning that

philosophy that pursuit of learning that

philosophy that pursuit of learning that way of

working

I I continued to study in art

I I continued to study in art

I I continued to study in art school for many years almost eight in

school for many years almost eight in

school for many years almost eight in total

um and towards the end after having read

um and towards the end after having read

um and towards the end after having read a number of things in particular bodair

a number of things in particular bodair

a number of things in particular bodair book painter of Modern Life I realized

book painter of Modern Life I realized

book painter of Modern Life I realized there was a

there was a

there was a sense and a way of exploring the

sense and a way of exploring the

sense and a way of exploring the world that was very different from what

world that was very different from what

world that was very different from what most

most

most people teach

people teach

people teach today it was about being inspired it was

today it was about being inspired it was

today it was about being inspired it was about the art of Discovery discovery of

about the art of Discovery discovery of

about the art of Discovery discovery of new

new

new things it was about experiencing the

things it was about experiencing the

things it was about experiencing the unknown without any clear

map it was

map it was

map it was about being in search of that private

about being in search of that private

about being in search of that private moment than any kind of

moment than any kind of

moment than any kind of lesson it wasn't about walking through

lesson it wasn't about walking through

lesson it wasn't about walking through the

the

the streets and tracing down the major sites

streets and tracing down the major sites

streets and tracing down the major sites and Ticking them off a list of sort of

and Ticking them off a list of sort of

and Ticking them off a list of sort of standard wonders not at all the crowd

standard wonders not at all the crowd

standard wonders not at all the crowd was about your

was about your

was about your domain as the air is that as he said of

domain as the air is that as he said of

domain as the air is that as he said of the bird or the Sea of the

the bird or the Sea of the

the bird or the Sea of the fish your passion your whole Creed was

fish your passion your whole Creed was

fish your passion your whole Creed was to Wed that

to Wed that

to Wed that crowd and to be a passionate

crowd and to be a passionate

crowd and to be a passionate Observer to take an immense pleasure in

Observer to take an immense pleasure in

Observer to take an immense pleasure in taking up home residence in this kind of

taking up home residence in this kind of

taking up home residence in this kind of sense of

sense of

sense of Multiplicity to immerse yourself in the

Multiplicity to immerse yourself in the

Multiplicity to immerse yourself in the bath of that

bath of that

bath of that crowd in whatever is seething and moving

crowd in whatever is seething and moving

crowd in whatever is seething and moving essent and

essent and

essent and infinite and even though you were not at

infinite and even though you were not at

infinite and even though you were not at home but in a Strange Land navigating

home but in a Strange Land navigating

home but in a Strange Land navigating like that turning left when you're

like that turning left when you're

like that turning left when you're supposed to turn

supposed to turn

supposed to turn right you would feel at home everywhere

right you would feel at home everywhere

right you would feel at home everywhere you would see

you would see

you would see everyone and you'd be at the center of

everyone and you'd be at the center of

everyone and you'd be at the center of everything and yet you would remain

everything and yet you would remain

everything and yet you would remain hidden from every

hidden from every

hidden from every body and I became enthralled by that

body and I became enthralled by that

body and I became enthralled by that very idea and I think in a sense that

very idea and I think in a sense that

very idea and I think in a sense that set me up those two

set me up those two

set me up those two thoughts had to become a magnificent

thoughts had to become a magnificent

thoughts had to become a magnificent failure and how to live one's life like

failure and how to live one's life like

failure and how to live one's life like a Flur in bod's day even though today is

a Flur in bod's day even though today is

a Flur in bod's day even though today is very very different in the way cities

look as an Arts student I I I became

look as an Arts student I I I became

look as an Arts student I I I became enthralled by movies of antonioni and

enthralled by movies of antonioni and

enthralled by movies of antonioni and Jean luk

Jean luk

Jean luk godar and particularly in godar's

godar and particularly in godar's

godar and particularly in godar's profound desire to

profound desire to

profound desire to eulogize the work of Roger vadima I

eulogize the work of Roger vadima I

eulogize the work of Roger vadima I never forget I I attended a lecture at

never forget I I attended a lecture at

never forget I I attended a lecture at the national film theater and there a

the national film theater and there a

the national film theater and there a very typical stiff English film critic

very typical stiff English film critic

very typical stiff English film critic from the guardian of all papers um asked

from the guardian of all papers um asked

from the guardian of all papers um asked Mr Godard what his favorite filmmaker

Mr Godard what his favorite filmmaker

Mr Godard what his favorite filmmaker was and he said Roger V him and the guy

was and he said Roger V him and the guy

was and he said Roger V him and the guy nearly fell off his chair he said well

nearly fell off his chair he said well

nearly fell off his chair he said well not renad not not eisenstein not

not renad not not eisenstein not

not renad not not eisenstein not me no no Raj Vadim why Miss why Raj

me no no Raj Vadim why Miss why Raj

me no no Raj Vadim why Miss why Raj Vadim Raj Vadim was

Vadim Raj Vadim was

Vadim Raj Vadim was known for discovering Bridget too and

known for discovering Bridget too and

known for discovering Bridget too and making the film God created

making the film God created

making the film God created woman

woman

woman and Godard said because

and Godard said because

and Godard said because Vadim is the greatest

amateur and that as I walked out of that

amateur and that as I walked out of that

amateur and that as I walked out of that theater did more to

theater did more to

theater did more to me than anything else to inspire my

me than anything else to inspire my

me than anything else to inspire my journey being thrown out of art school

journey being thrown out of art school

journey being thrown out of art school with a number of other folk

with a number of other folk

with a number of other folk disenfranchised malfunction

disenfranchised malfunction

disenfranchised malfunction typical War

baby what were you going to do how are

baby what were you going to do how are

baby what were you going to do how are you going to deal with this horrible

you going to deal with this horrible

you going to deal with this horrible real world that you've stepped away from

real world that you've stepped away from

real world that you've stepped away from for so long I thoroughly got depressed

for so long I thoroughly got depressed

for so long I thoroughly got depressed actually but 10 years later after that

actually but 10 years later after that

actually but 10 years later after that lecture The Cult of the

lecture The Cult of the

lecture The Cult of the amateur was labeled Punk

something I had been

something I had been

something I had been inadvertently responsible for but

inadvertently responsible for but

inadvertently responsible for but something I owe much to that old

something I owe much to that old

something I owe much to that old Professor who talked about how to be a

Professor who talked about how to be a

Professor who talked about how to be a magnificent

failure by

failure by

failure by 1976 I'd opened this store sex on the

1976 I'd opened this store sex on the

1976 I'd opened this store sex on the King's Road and

King's Road and

King's Road and conceived and named a band

conceived and named a band

conceived and named a band The Sex Pistols why I just wanted a

The Sex Pistols why I just wanted a

The Sex Pistols why I just wanted a group of young thuggy

group of young thuggy

group of young thuggy kids who could be assassins who could go

kids who could be assassins who could go

kids who could be assassins who could go out and Destroy what I saw to be a

out and Destroy what I saw to be a

out and Destroy what I saw to be a horrible commodified world a world in

horrible commodified world a world in

horrible commodified world a world in which there was fast becoming very

which there was fast becoming very

which there was fast becoming very little space for anyone to do anything

little space for anyone to do anything

little space for anyone to do anything at all

at all

at all individual I made clothes that looked

individual I made clothes that looked

individual I made clothes that looked like they were destroyed because I

like they were destroyed because I

like they were destroyed because I didn't want clothes to look new I wanted

didn't want clothes to look new I wanted

didn't want clothes to look new I wanted a group to look like they were

a group to look like they were

a group to look like they were destroying everything because I didn't

destroying everything because I didn't

destroying everything because I didn't want them to look

want them to look

want them to look new and the word pistols just so you

new and the word pistols just so you

new and the word pistols just so you know was given to them because they were

know was given to them because they were

know was given to them because they were barely 18 and I thought their penises

barely 18 and I thought their penises

barely 18 and I thought their penises would be only this big rather than this

big

big

big I I

I I

I I basically um came up with this idea idea

basically um came up with this idea idea

basically um came up with this idea idea of uh designing the first pair of

of uh designing the first pair of

of uh designing the first pair of bondage trousers why because I wanted

bondage trousers why because I wanted

bondage trousers why because I wanted trousers to appear as if you could you

trousers to appear as if you could you

trousers to appear as if you could you you were selling them but also appear to

you were selling them but also appear to

you were selling them but also appear to the average eye as trous is impossible

the average eye as trous is impossible

the average eye as trous is impossible to wear because they would the legs were

to wear because they would the legs were

to wear because they would the legs were tied together and it would be impossible

tied together and it would be impossible

tied together and it would be impossible to walk in the idea of selling something

to walk in the idea of selling something

to walk in the idea of selling something so

so

so impractical really underlined and

impractical really underlined and

impractical really underlined and underscored everything that art

underscored everything that art

underscored everything that art Professor was trying to tell me

Professor was trying to tell me

Professor was trying to tell me it was a declaration of war against

it was a declaration of war against

it was a declaration of war against repression both the shop and the group

repression both the shop and the group

repression both the shop and the group came to represent that

came to represent that

came to represent that look that look of music and equally the

look that look of music and equally the

look that look of music and equally the sound of the sexists came to be

sound of the sexists came to be

sound of the sexists came to be represent the

fashion I'd understood during the course

fashion I'd understood during the course

fashion I'd understood during the course of art school that there were two most

of art school that there were two most

of art school that there were two most important moments in life one

was the desire and ultimate practice of

was the desire and ultimate practice of

was the desire and ultimate practice of Sex and the other was um the preparation

Sex and the other was um the preparation

Sex and the other was um the preparation and

and

and Ultimate

Ultimate

Ultimate Death and those two moments um really

Death and those two moments um really

Death and those two moments um really became very important to me in

became very important to me in

became very important to me in configuring something that was

configuring something that was

configuring something that was ultimately labeled

ultimately labeled

ultimately labeled Punk um

Punk um

Punk um I believe that sex translated into

I believe that sex translated into

I believe that sex translated into fashion became fetish and

fashion became fetish and

fashion became fetish and fetishism was the very embodiment of

fetishism was the very embodiment of

fetishism was the very embodiment of Youth and youth had to behave

Youth and youth had to behave

Youth and youth had to behave irreverently I believe that and it had

irreverently I believe that and it had

irreverently I believe that and it had to take drugs I believe that because of

to take drugs I believe that because of

to take drugs I believe that because of the

the

the fundamental belief in its own

fundamental belief in its own

fundamental belief in its own immortality which it needed to assert

immortality which it needed to assert

immortality which it needed to assert over and over and over again

over and over and over again

over and over and over again um sex became a place that was

um sex became a place that was

um sex became a place that was magical uh fetishism in both ways yes

magical uh fetishism in both ways yes

magical uh fetishism in both ways yes grahe I'm seeing you sex in both ways

grahe I'm seeing you sex in both ways

grahe I'm seeing you sex in both ways um well people spent hours there and no

um well people spent hours there and no

um well people spent hours there and no one wanted to leave and in it I think I

one wanted to leave and in it I think I

one wanted to leave and in it I think I created a feeling that was both euphoric

created a feeling that was both euphoric

created a feeling that was both euphoric and

and

and hysterical you felt an enormous range of

hysterical you felt an enormous range of

hysterical you felt an enormous range of possibilities and whatever was happening

possibilities and whatever was happening

possibilities and whatever was happening couldn't be predicted icted and that was

couldn't be predicted icted and that was

couldn't be predicted icted and that was fantastic because it was a movement

fantastic because it was a movement

fantastic because it was a movement towards a place

towards a place

towards a place unknown I made ugliness Beautiful by

unknown I made ugliness Beautiful by

unknown I made ugliness Beautiful by using kidnap Ransom note lettering

using kidnap Ransom note lettering

using kidnap Ransom note lettering against all values of what was perfect

against all values of what was perfect

against all values of what was perfect and goodlook

and goodlook

and goodlook typography I made a cover of an album

typography I made a cover of an album

typography I made a cover of an album look like a detergent box why because

look like a detergent box why because

look like a detergent box why because the banal the banal was important anyone

the banal the banal was important anyone

the banal the banal was important anyone who lost the connection with the

who lost the connection with the

who lost the connection with the fundamental in art also lack makes the

fundamental in art also lack makes the

fundamental in art also lack makes the sense for the

sense for the

sense for the banal I don't mean the ability to see

banal I don't mean the ability to see

banal I don't mean the ability to see that something is banal but the ability

that something is banal but the ability

that something is banal but the ability to understand the artistic value of

banality I did as grah and brown Martin

banality I did as grah and brown Martin

banality I did as grah and brown Martin said yes eventually elector I was press

said yes eventually elector I was press

said yes eventually elector I was press ganged basically by some guy who had a a

ganged basically by some guy who had a a

ganged basically by some guy who had a a huge grudge against Tony Blair at the

huge grudge against Tony Blair at the

huge grudge against Tony Blair at the time and wanted me to drop a bomb in the

time and wanted me to drop a bomb in the

time and wanted me to drop a bomb in the middle of it all and cause a lot of fuss

middle of it all and cause a lot of fuss

middle of it all and cause a lot of fuss by declaring my myself a mayoral

by declaring my myself a mayoral

by declaring my myself a mayoral candidate at the

candidate at the

candidate at the Millennium and uh it was during the

Millennium and uh it was during the

Millennium and uh it was during the course of having to create some kind of

course of having to create some kind of

course of having to create some kind of Manifesto taking into account all my

Manifesto taking into account all my

Manifesto taking into account all my life and times I I decided that instead

life and times I I decided that instead

life and times I I decided that instead of spending money as the government had

of spending money as the government had

of spending money as the government had on this Dreadful dome which really just

on this Dreadful dome which really just

on this Dreadful dome which really just truly represented corporate greed and

truly represented corporate greed and

truly represented corporate greed and their

excess it was horrible to think that

excess it was horrible to think that

excess it was horrible to think that that was

that was

that was something the UK should be proud

something the UK should be proud

something the UK should be proud of I thought of spending the same money

of I thought of spending the same money

of I thought of spending the same money on

on

on students give every kid I thought of 18

students give every kid I thought of 18

students give every kid I thought of 18 free flight to somewhere somewhere that

free flight to somewhere somewhere that

free flight to somewhere somewhere that they could enjoy and investigate as

they could enjoy and investigate as

they could enjoy and investigate as bodair once did his own City of

bodair once did his own City of

bodair once did his own City of Paris be a Flur basically of some kind I

Paris be a Flur basically of some kind I

Paris be a Flur basically of some kind I thought of

thought of

thought of bringing the countryside into the parks

bringing the countryside into the parks

bringing the countryside into the parks to reconnect

to reconnect

to reconnect to life plant orchards in Hy Park put a

to life plant orchards in Hy Park put a

to life plant orchards in Hy Park put a pig farm in Kensington Gardens right

pig farm in Kensington Gardens right

pig farm in Kensington Gardens right next to where princess Dy once lived um

next to where princess Dy once lived um

next to where princess Dy once lived um I thought of uh turning out all the

I thought of uh turning out all the

I thought of uh turning out all the lights and and and enabling a city to

lights and and and enabling a city to

lights and and and enabling a city to look at the

look at the

look at the sky and seeing all these terrible things

sky and seeing all these terrible things

sky and seeing all these terrible things happening to libraries everywhere

happening to libraries everywhere

happening to libraries everywhere closing down in every in every part of

closing down in every in every part of

closing down in every in every part of London and and in fact the library in

London and and in fact the library in

London and and in fact the library in STO Newington that I grew up and and

STO Newington that I grew up and and

STO Newington that I grew up and and lived with for so long I thought of

lived with for so long I thought of

lived with for so long I thought of installing pubs in there the only way

installing pubs in there the only way

installing pubs in there the only way maybe to reinvent them so we could all

maybe to reinvent them so we could all

maybe to reinvent them so we could all have a beer whilst reading Dickens or

whatever today's art schools probably

whatever today's art schools probably

whatever today's art schools probably don't trade in any of that philosophy

don't trade in any of that philosophy

don't trade in any of that philosophy anymore what I've understood in 20 years

anymore what I've understood in 20 years

anymore what I've understood in 20 years since

since

since thater this IDE idea was driven

thater this IDE idea was driven

thater this IDE idea was driven out replaced by high fees that determine

out replaced by high fees that determine

out replaced by high fees that determine who would go to art

who would go to art

who would go to art school if you could pay or

school if you could pay or

school if you could pay or not change the very way Society breeds

not change the very way Society breeds

not change the very way Society breeds any kind of

any kind of

any kind of Genius uh yes we were cast out people

Genius uh yes we were cast out people

Genius uh yes we were cast out people like me could never have possibly

like me could never have possibly

like me could never have possibly entered art school who been far too

entered art school who been far too

entered art school who been far too rebellious um f you felt there was no

rebellious um f you felt there was no

rebellious um f you felt there was no need you see or any use for having

need you see or any use for having

need you see or any use for having people studying how to become

people studying how to become

people studying how to become failures no malfunctioning people who've

failures no malfunctioning people who've

failures no malfunctioning people who've not been set up correctly to have a

not been set up correctly to have a

not been set up correctly to have a trade

trade

trade no and what is this word philosophy well

no and what is this word philosophy well

no and what is this word philosophy well how can you get a job doing that

how can you get a job doing that

how can you get a job doing that immediately universities would just

immediately universities would just

immediately universities would just drive it off their syllabuses and art

drive it off their syllabuses and art

drive it off their syllabuses and art schools became places merely for

schools became places merely for

schools became places merely for careerists the very word that I do

careerists the very word that I do

careerists the very word that I do recall was actually driven out of your

recall was actually driven out of your

recall was actually driven out of your brain never ever mentioned you were

brain never ever mentioned you were

brain never ever mentioned you were having a career at Art School in my day

having a career at Art School in my day

having a career at Art School in my day you would be just spat

you would be just spat

you would be just spat upon these teachers teaching these Noble

upon these teachers teaching these Noble

upon these teachers teaching these Noble Pursuits died

Pursuits died

Pursuits died off and with it I suspect so did the

off and with it I suspect so did the

off and with it I suspect so did the philosophy that romantic pursuit of

philosophy that romantic pursuit of

philosophy that romantic pursuit of learning and education died off with it

learning and education died off with it

learning and education died off with it in my experience to date

in my experience to date

in my experience to date and what's been

replaced what has it what's been

replaced what has it what's been

replaced what has it what's been replaced what what what's happened I

replaced what what what's happened I

replaced what what what's happened I think technology has

think technology has

think technology has unquestionably put something else in its

unquestionably put something else in its

unquestionably put something else in its place but it's not used necessarily

place but it's not used necessarily

place but it's not used necessarily correctly if you can use technology to

correctly if you can use technology to

correctly if you can use technology to ReDiscover the idea of the flanner the

ReDiscover the idea of the flanner the

ReDiscover the idea of the flanner the idea of the Romantic notion of

idea of the Romantic notion of

idea of the Romantic notion of learning for learning sake the idea of

learning for learning sake the idea of

learning for learning sake the idea of Art For Art's Sake not

Art For Art's Sake not

Art For Art's Sake not career then maybe because information is

career then maybe because information is

career then maybe because information is accessible now of course at an extremely

accessible now of course at an extremely

accessible now of course at an extremely low cost of course everyone knows that

low cost of course everyone knows that

low cost of course everyone knows that but you can't fall into the Trap that

but you can't fall into the Trap that

but you can't fall into the Trap that you can just flit around

you can just flit around

you can just flit around online use the internet and Technology

online use the internet and Technology

online use the internet and Technology to discover new ideas

to discover new ideas

to discover new ideas maybe be a virtual Flur

maybe be a virtual Flur

maybe be a virtual Flur maybe debate go further and deeper maybe

maybe debate go further and deeper maybe

maybe debate go further and deeper maybe don't take information for granted just

don't take information for granted just

don't take information for granted just because it's

because it's

because it's free one did at school and we learned

free one did at school and we learned

free one did at school and we learned back in the 50s that the UK was was a

back in the 50s that the UK was was a

back in the 50s that the UK was was a nation of liars and simply taught a

nation of liars and simply taught a

nation of liars and simply taught a culture of

culture of

culture of deception use technology in the right

deception use technology in the right

deception use technology in the right way uh

way uh

way uh don't become a slave to

don't become a slave to

don't become a slave to it that is don't become so reliant on it

it that is don't become so reliant on it

it that is don't become so reliant on it that you can't calculate or read a map

that you can't calculate or read a map

that you can't calculate or read a map because how do you know then to turn

because how do you know then to turn

because how do you know then to turn left rather than turn right how do you

left rather than turn right how do you

left rather than turn right how do you know how to even spot a

know how to even spot a

know how to even spot a lie use technology as a tool just like a

lie use technology as a tool just like a

lie use technology as a tool just like a pencil for learning it's not a

pencil for learning it's not a

pencil for learning it's not a replacement for applied learning

replacement for applied learning

replacement for applied learning basically it's not a replacement either

basically it's not a replacement either

basically it's not a replacement either for

for

for experience that's

it

it

it [Applause]

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[Applause] question thanks thank malcol for that

question thanks thank malcol for that

question thanks thank malcol for that some um very well put points in there we

some um very well put points in there we

some um very well put points in there we might have to edit the video before we

might have to edit the video before we

might have to edit the video before we stream it

um do you want to take no no no we won't

um do you want to take no no no we won't

um do you want to take no no no we won't we we we are running over time but I

we we we are running over time but I

we we we are running over time but I want to take one question because it

want to take one question because it

want to take one question because it would be um it would be such a shame not

would be um it would be such a shame not

would be um it would be such a shame not to to have one question to Malcolm um

to to have one question to Malcolm um

to to have one question to Malcolm um hopefully he'll be around over the

hopefully he'll be around over the

hopefully he'll be around over the coffee break um one question please

coffee break um one question please

coffee break um one question please gentle at the back with the purple shirt

gentle at the back with the purple shirt

gentle at the back with the purple shirt a microphone

Nick kind so how do we get away from our

Nick kind so how do we get away from our

Nick kind so how do we get away from our karaoke

karaoke

karaoke culture and the question is how do we

culture and the question is how do we

culture and the question is how do we get away from our karaoke culture I

get away from our karaoke culture I

get away from our karaoke culture I think I think if you had to ask a child

think I think if you had to ask a child

think I think if you had to ask a child how does he deal with a culture that

how does he deal with a culture that

how does he deal with a culture that basically

basically

basically declares um

declares um

declares um well to be stupid is

well to be stupid is

well to be stupid is cool um and everybody seems to be able

cool um and everybody seems to be able

cool um and everybody seems to be able to enjoy that fact uh it's very very

to enjoy that fact uh it's very very

to enjoy that fact uh it's very very hard for anyone to pursue learning to

hard for anyone to pursue learning to

hard for anyone to pursue learning to struggle when you don't have to struggle

struggle when you don't have to struggle

struggle when you don't have to struggle and everybody in a karaoke culture can

and everybody in a karaoke culture can

and everybody in a karaoke culture can be successful instantly uh H how do you

be successful instantly uh H how do you

be successful instantly uh H how do you change that what why do you think people

change that what why do you think people

change that what why do you think people are going to learn to struggle I think

are going to learn to struggle I think

are going to learn to struggle I think um

um

um it's a Pity those old boys aren't still

it's a Pity those old boys aren't still

it's a Pity those old boys aren't still around to teach the other way um it's a

around to teach the other way um it's a

around to teach the other way um it's a Pity because the other way actually at

Pity because the other way actually at

Pity because the other way actually at the end of the day is more sexy uh I

the end of the day is more sexy uh I

the end of the day is more sexy uh I think it it's about sexiness I think

think it it's about sexiness I think

think it it's about sexiness I think that the

that the

that the authentic is more sexy than karaoke

authentic is more sexy than karaoke

authentic is more sexy than karaoke karaoke is about [ __ ] an inflatable

karaoke is about [ __ ] an inflatable

karaoke is about [ __ ] an inflatable doll um the authentic is about doing the

doll um the authentic is about doing the

doll um the authentic is about doing the real thing that's that's the

difference well thank

you well that's the uh that's a terrific

you well that's the uh that's a terrific

you well that's the uh that's a terrific way to end the